Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

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Terrapin Station wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:15 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:48 pm Yet the country is what gives and protects all free people's rights enough to choose which law to follow.
Which is completely irrelevant to the fact that religious folks feel their allegiance is to their god(s) above all else.
You do recognize, I hope, that we are talking of a genocidal slave wanting fascist god, Yahweh. Right?
Say what now?
Which of the plethora of gods do you think we are discussing, if not the satanic Christian god?

As to the allegiance of the religious, if as you describe, then they should stop swearing aligience to the state.

They look like liars, --- if you are correct.

Liars and traitors. IMO.

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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:12 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:57 pm Secular laws are slowly civilizing all the more backwards religions.
Yeah...that's working out well in China, and in Iran, and in Saudi, and in Africa, just as it has worked so very well in all the Communist countries.
Indeed. Things are looking up world wide, especially China.

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Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:10 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:12 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:57 pm Secular laws are slowly civilizing all the more backwards religions.
Yeah...that's working out well in China, and in Iran, and in Saudi, and in Africa, just as it has worked so very well in all the Communist countries.
Indeed. Things are looking up world wide, especially China.
It depends. They're doing very well economically, since they went Red Capitalist, it's true. But their present human rights abuses and their worldwide sabotage, to say nothing of their friendly gift of COVID to the world would suggest otherwise...that is, if you think morality counts.
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Greatest I am wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:54 pm Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

Our first allegiance is to our countries.

Our laws and political leanings are moving us towards laïcité, a rather rigid form of the best religious freedoms/ideology, quirky or not, for all. Keep it to yourself will be the order of the day. Happy days. All within a Western style of freedom seeking governance.

Should our backwards thinking mainstream religions be asked to be more representative of good law?

Negative discrimination without a just cause is what Yahweh admits to doing in Job 2;3., when he allowed Satan to move him to sin against Job.

Christians should admit their sin and stop preaching that it is a good to be homophobic and misogynous, contradicting the law of the land.

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In democracies it is the duty of all members to express opinions about how they feel about the laws that are passed in their names.
Calling this treacherous is moronic.

So no.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:24 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:10 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:12 pm
Yeah...that's working out well in China, and in Iran, and in Saudi, and in Africa, just as it has worked so very well in all the Communist countries.
Indeed. Things are looking up world wide, especially China.
It depends. They're doing very well economically, since they went Red Capitalist, it's true. But their present human rights abuses and their worldwide sabotage, to say nothing of their friendly gift of COVID to the world would suggest otherwise...that is, if you think morality counts.
We were talking more of overall progress to the left.

You bring up Covid as if it was planned, as gifts are, and that puts you in the extreme right.

We can look at human rights in the East when we stop abusing non-whites in the West.

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Sculptor wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:30 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:54 pm Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

Our first allegiance is to our countries.

Our laws and political leanings are moving us towards laïcité, a rather rigid form of the best religious freedoms/ideology, quirky or not, for all. Keep it to yourself will be the order of the day. Happy days. All within a Western style of freedom seeking governance.

Should our backwards thinking mainstream religions be asked to be more representative of good law?

Negative discrimination without a just cause is what Yahweh admits to doing in Job 2;3., when he allowed Satan to move him to sin against Job.

Christians should admit their sin and stop preaching that it is a good to be homophobic and misogynous, contradicting the law of the land.

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In democracies it is the duty of all members to express opinions about how they feel about the laws that are passed in their names.
Calling this treacherous is moronic.

So no.
I have no problem with freedom of speech. I can say I do not like a law, but it is a different situation when I preach against it. Right?

As a citizen who follows equality for gays and women laws, and knowing why those laws are important, it is in societies best interest to have the laws of the land respected.

Do you agree?

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Greatest I am wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:39 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:24 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:10 pm

Indeed. Things are looking up world wide, especially China.
It depends. They're doing very well economically, since they went Red Capitalist, it's true. But their present human rights abuses and their worldwide sabotage, to say nothing of their friendly gift of COVID to the world would suggest otherwise...that is, if you think morality counts.
We were talking more of overall progress to the left.
Then there was nothing to talk about. There isn't one successful truly Socialist regime in history. They're all regressive and totalitarian.

And as for COVID, it would never have become a worldwide plague if the Communist leaders of China had agreed to tell the truth, and to take action as they should have -- and as the West did, immediately, but alas, too late to prevent what the Communists had let loose on the world.
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Your "let loose" shows your stupidity.

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Greatest I am wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:05 pm Nice that we agree.
That's an odd way to sum up our positions.
As to the limits you spoke of, you are a free person and set your own limits.

I broke the law of the land to protest it. That, to me, is how one improves things if one is right.
Then your whole thesis is incorrect. It is not whether one's morals or choices go against the morals of the land, it is whether one's morals or choices are right.
To allow religions to preach against better laws of the land, is insanity and treason.
Well, in many nations it is the law of the land to allow religions (and any institution or person) to preach or argue against the laws of the land. In fact here, since you argue they should not be allowed to do this, you are arguing against the laws of your land. And since you have protested against the laws of you land and broke the law doing it, you were treasonous by your own admission.
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