That was on page 3. This is now page 26 and a fair bit of the intervening 23 pages have involved me pointing out that my argument is that it is only when all evidence and logic is exhausted that people are compelled to make aesthetic choices. It is simply a fact that there are thousands of successful belief systems that are underdetermined. That is true even if you limit belief systems to include only those that call themselves Christian.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:57 pmWithout even the necessity of a theory at all, this attempt at argument here is ad hominem and also wrong.
And here's the proof of that
tillingborn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:42 am
"If a belief system holds up to scrutiny, well and good, but most people pragmatically adopt the general philosophy of the crowd they happen to belong to. There are thousands of successful belief systems, insofar as they are conducive to human well-being, many of which claim to be the truth. People who make a choice do so for aesthetic reasons, truth has little to do with it.
For context, here is the post you quote from in full:
You make your aesthetic opinion clear when you say: "But the only real reason to believe something is because it's true." The problem is that the whole reason why the field of Christian Apologetics exists is that nobody can prove that the claims of Christianity are true. But you like the idea, so you believe it.tillingborn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:42 amOne of the key maxims of philosophy is that 'the unexamined life is not worth living'. The point is precisely not to adhere to received belief systems, but to challenge them. If a belief system holds up to scrutiny, well and good, but most people pragmatically adopt the general philosophy of the crowd they happen to belong to. There are thousands of successful belief systems, insofar as they are conducive to human well-being, many of which claim to be the truth. People who make a choice do so for aesthetic reasons, truth has little to do with it.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:33 pmEvery belief has its benefits. But these are merely pragmatic incentives for adhering to received belief systems whether or not the systems are true. But the only real reason to believe something is because it's true. The rest is just...well...benefits.
That too is an aesthetic choice.