bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm
Why should we be blamed for coming to this world and playing a role that God is the Grand Designer?
Dear bahman,
I think some would say that we are responsible for our agency because we’ve evolved into having free will.
If you fancy entertaining yourself with a fun paradox: may we have been determined to develop free will and thereby freed ourselves from being determined...?
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm
Why should we be blamed for coming to this world and playing a role that God is the Grand Designer?
do we blame the architect cuz murders happen in the house he designed?
do we credit the architect cuz lives are saved in the house the designed?
no
we might gripe cuz we think the house is shabby, or be grateful cuz the house is marvelous, but we, the occupants, have to take responsibility for what we individually do while livin' here
give the architect his due, but don't blame or credit him for things that belong to us
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm
Why should we be blamed for coming to this world and playing a role that God is the Grand Designer?
Dear bahman,
I think some would say that we are responsible for our agency because we’ve evolved into having free will.
If you fancy entertaining yourself with a fun paradox: may we have been determined to develop free will and thereby freed ourselves from being determined...?
Humbly
Hermit
Free will? What do you want to do? Whatever you ever decide to do is known and it is a part of God's design.
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm
Why should we be blamed for coming to this world and playing a role that God is the Grand Designer?
do we blame the architect cuz murders happen in the house he designed?
do we credit the architect cuz lives are saved in the house the designed?
no
we might gripe cuz we think the house is shabby, or be grateful cuz the house is marvelous, but we, the occupants, have to take responsibility for what we individually do while livin' here
give the architect his due, but don't blame or credit him for things that belong to us
Couldn't God create a much much better world where people are not biased by their natures to do evil things?
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm
Why should we be blamed for coming to this world and playing a role that God is the Grand Designer?
do we blame the architect cuz murders happen in the house he designed?
do we credit the architect cuz lives are saved in the house the designed?
no
we might gripe cuz we think the house is shabby, or be grateful cuz the house is marvelous, but we, the occupants, have to take responsibility for what we individually do while livin' here
give the architect his due, but don't blame or credit him for things that belong to us
Couldn't God create a much much better world where people are not biased by their natures to do evil things?
do we blame the architect cuz murders happen in the house he designed?
do we credit the architect cuz lives are saved in the house the designed?
no
we might gripe cuz we think the house is shabby, or be grateful cuz the house is marvelous, but we, the occupants, have to take responsibility for what we individually do while livin' here
give the architect his due, but don't blame or credit him for things that belong to us
Couldn't God create a much much better world where people are not biased by their natures to do evil things?
I feel no compulsion to do evil
do you?
Hell yeah. I am a psychopath. Life is very difficult for people like me.
bahman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:58 pm
No. I am not responsible for it. Just think of it, God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin.
But you clearly stated that we come to this world to play a role that god is the grand designer, you did say that bahman.
Did you say that or not?
Yes, I said that. I also said that "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin".
So then if you said that "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin"...then you the speaker, is to blame for saying what you spoke, surely you are playing the role of a speaker saying things like "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin".
But you clearly stated that we come to this world to play a role that god is the grand designer, you did say that bahman.
Did you say that or not?
Yes, I said that. I also said that "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin".
So then if you said that "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin"...then you the speaker, is to blame for saying what you spoke, surely you are playing the role of a speaker saying things like "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin".
bahman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:23 pm
Yes, I said that. I also said that "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin".
So then if you said that "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin"...then you the speaker, is to blame for saying what you spoke, surely you are playing the role of a speaker saying things like "God puts us in sinful situations and waits until we sin".
