Why should we be blamed?

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bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:31 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:19 am
bahman wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm Why should we be blamed for coming to this world and playing a role that God is the Grand Designer?
as I reckon it: god doesn't blame us for diddly
Oh, I see, so there is no Hell.
I don't think so
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:51 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:31 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:19 am
as I reckon it: god doesn't blame us for diddly
Oh, I see, so there is no Hell.
I don't think so
So, God blames us.
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bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:11 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:51 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:31 am
Oh, I see, so there is no Hell.
I don't think so
So, God blames us.
I don't follow

how does a lack of a hell mean god blames us?
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:11 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:51 am

I don't think so
So, God blames us.
I don't follow

how does a lack of a hell mean god blames us?
I mean the existence of Hell means that God blames us.
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bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:32 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:11 am
So, God blames us.
I don't follow

how does a lack of a hell mean god blames us?
I mean the existence of Hell means that God blames us.
oh, I see...well, like I say: I don't think god blames us and I don't think there's a hell
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:34 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:32 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 am

I don't follow

how does a lack of a hell mean god blames us?
I mean the existence of Hell means that God blames us.
oh, I see...well, like I say: I don't think god blames us and I don't think there's a hell
So, in your worldview, everybody goes to Heaven in spite of what s/he does?
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bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:36 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:34 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:32 am
I mean the existence of Hell means that God blames us.
oh, I see...well, like I say: I don't think god blames us and I don't think there's a hell
So, in your worldview, everybody goes to Heaven in spite of what s/he does?
well, I never said I think there's a heaven
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:02 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:36 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:34 am

oh, I see...well, like I say: I don't think god blames us and I don't think there's a hell
So, in your worldview, everybody goes to Heaven in spite of what s/he does?
well, I never said I think there's a heaven
But you believe in God?
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bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:02 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:36 am
So, in your worldview, everybody goes to Heaven in spite of what s/he does?
well, I never said I think there's a heaven
But you believe in God?
yeah, I'm a deist
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:05 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:02 am

well, I never said I think there's a heaven
But you believe in God?
yeah, I'm a deist
So, you believe in a place that you go after your death?
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bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:05 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 am
But you believe in God?
yeah, I'm a deist
So, you believe in a place that you go after your death?
I kid around and say I'm goin' to valhalla, but -- truth is -- I have no real belief on the afterlife

as a deist, I have no holy book to turn to, no holy men to advise me, no holy place to congregate with others

the afterlife, if there is one, is a mystery to me

I don't spend a lotta time thinkin' on, or worryin' about, it...I'll find out for myself some day (some distant day, I hope)
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:13 am
bahman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:05 am

yeah, I'm a deist
So, you believe in a place that you go after your death?
I kid around and say I'm goin' to valhalla, but -- truth is -- I have no real belief on the afterlife

as a deist, I have no holy book to turn to, no holy men to advise me, no holy place to congregate with others

the afterlife, if there is one, is a mystery to me

I don't spend a lotta time thinkin' on, or worryin' about, it...I'll find out for myself some day (some distant day, I hope)
Interesting.
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Greatest I am wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:10 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:26 am
bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:58 pm Oh, come on dude. Jesus cannot be the way to the truth.
What truth? If U mean whether or not God exists, then certainly since I have gnosis - and was born into Christianity (not the stupid North American evangelist crap) - it appears, that indeed it was required - that to know God, one must 1st go via the word(s) of Christ.

bahman wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:58 pm What did He say that made you believe otherwise?
..the thing about the above (plus - since my gnosis - my sage has insisted HE did what HE did - got crucified for the cause, if that doesn't deserve respect, and a path to comprehension of God, then not sure what does)

What is your 'religion' of choice?
??

Gnostics are not usually foolish enough to be literalists or believe in a real supernatural Jesus Christ.

That would take a supernatural belief and no Gnostic worth his salt will allow his mind to be corrupted by a supernatural belief.

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I never stated I was a Gnostic. I stated I have gnosis - under_stand the difference.

Eg Gnostics are a pile of contradictory morons, whereas having actual gnosis of God renders one whatever such understanding renders one.
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:43 am
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:10 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:26 am

What truth? If U mean whether or not God exists, then certainly since I have gnosis - and was born into Christianity (not the stupid North American evangelist crap) - it appears, that indeed it was required - that to know God, one must 1st go via the word(s) of Christ.




..the thing about the above (plus - since my gnosis - my sage has insisted HE did what HE did - got crucified for the cause, if that doesn't deserve respect, and a path to comprehension of God, then not sure what does)

What is your 'religion' of choice?
??

Gnostics are not usually foolish enough to be literalists or believe in a real supernatural Jesus Christ.

That would take a supernatural belief and no Gnostic worth his salt will allow his mind to be corrupted by a supernatural belief.

Regards
DL
I never stated I was a Gnostic. I stated I have gnosis - under_stand the difference.

Eg Gnostics are a pile of contradictory morons, whereas having actual gnosis of God renders one whatever such understanding renders one.
Let's see if you understand anywhere near what a Gnostic Christian does. Name or define god and that will show your gnosis.

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DL
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Greatest I am wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:27 pm
attofishpi wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:43 am
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:10 pm

??

Gnostics are not usually foolish enough to be literalists or believe in a real supernatural Jesus Christ.

That would take a supernatural belief and no Gnostic worth his salt will allow his mind to be corrupted by a supernatural belief.

Regards
DL
I never stated I was a Gnostic. I stated I have gnosis - under_stand the difference.

Eg Gnostics are a pile of contradictory morons, whereas having actual gnosis of God renders one whatever such understanding renders one.
Let's see if you understand anywhere near what a Gnostic Christian does. Name or define god and that will show your gnosis.

Regards
DL
Sure. A Gnostic Christian 'God' sucks my cock. (attribute 1.)
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