Dontaskme wrote: But why would any sane rational intelligent person choose to want that imposed upon the self?
Nobody would choose it for themself, implies nobody would harm themself - including killing themself .... ?Immanuel Can Wrote: Nobody would choose it for himself.
"For one will hardly die for a righteous person; though perhaps for the good person someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:7-8)
We can see the freedom to choose violence to the self whether it be to themself or another is obviously available, but now you are saying nobody would choose it for themself, when they simply do.
My point is Immanuel, if we already know what the effects of pain and suffering is on ourself or another, then why would anybody choose to reincarnate into a reality where there is the freedom to choose to inflict pain and suffering either upon ourself or another ? why would they want to experience a reality like that?
Why would anyone want to reincarnate into a life of sin?
This is what I am trying to understand.