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Re-quote Age:

My views that 'hell' exists are based on sound, logical reasoning.

The above quote was posted by a character known to the forum as the named one Age. So go ahead prove the claim, if only to yourself, because that is basically a demand for knowledge that has manifested by the self that goes by the named one Age.

So basically, for the reader of this proposed claim by the character known as the named one Age, what is being proposed here, is that 'hell' exists and that's just about all that is going to be KNOWN about the existence of HELL.

So there you have it, the proposed statement that 'hell' does indeed exist has been proven as proposed by the character known as the named one Age who also claims that EVERY thing (I say) A.K.A the named one Age WHO is believed to be saying this data...can and will be backed up and supported with empirical EVIDENCE and PROOF, or with sound, valid arguments. So there you have it, 'hell' does indeed exist because the character known as the named one Age has said it does, and that statement is in and of itself the actual proof.

Which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and so this data that has been spoken as and through the character known as Age is just about as useful as a chocolate teapot, as is also the character known as the named one Age who claims to be a useful informer.

More nonsense to follow...just wait for the echo.







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When you say hell exists do you mean the hell of human suffering which obviously
does exist or the metaphysical hell of belief systems which may or may not exist ?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:13 pm When you say hell exists do you mean the hell of human suffering which obviously
does exist or the metaphysical hell of belief systems which may or may not exist ?

I mean the belief systems that are born of thought, which are born of mind, which doesn't exist except as believed.

Hell is being stuck in a room being forced to talk to Age.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:37 pm Hell is being stuck in a room being forced to talk to Age.

That is actually quite funny.

Dontaskme wrote:
I mean the belief systems that are born of thought which are born of mind which doesnt exist except as believed

I accept that the mind exists simply because it is the most practical position that I can take
So even if it does not exist it is still easier for me to accept that it does so that is what I do

Sculptor wrote:
Hell is being stuck in a room being forced to talk to Age

He is definitely unique compared to everyone else here but I am used to him by now so he really does not bother me
But his persistence in continually asking questions would require too much energy from me were I to answer them all

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:02 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
I mean the belief systems that are born of thought which are born of mind which doesnt exist except as believed

I accept that the mind exists simply because it is the most practical position that I can take
So even if it does not exist it is still easier for me to accept that it does so that is what I do

Of course, without the projection screen of the mind, you have no position to take, so it seems acceptance is all the mind is interested in.

Too much mental energy would be required for me to think there was no such thing as the mind
Also the bizarre paradox of me using my own mind to convince itself that it is merely an illusion

An illusion can be very credible indeed if it appears convincing enough just as reality can be very non credible if it is not convincing enough
The thing that allows me to think is what I call my mind regardless of anything else so it makes no difference to me whether or not it is real

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:07 pm

he really does not bother me

And yet he really does think he bothers other people, it's like he really gets turned on with his obsessive self indulgent arrogance in his deluded belief that he's pissing everyone off. I've heard him accuse others of hating and getting frustrated and mad at what he says, so many times. I really think it's time to call him out on his own bullshit, I'm just so sick and tired of him now. I think he really should keep all his ill misinformed dumb as a box of frogs ''thoughts'' to himself, or start communicating on a proper human to human level...instead of constantly repeating the inhumane mantra ''You Humans'' ...as if they were the scum of the earth, what a condescending attitude.. I don't even feel the slightest bit of compassion for him anymore, I used to because of his Autism, but compassion has obviously been wasted on him, in my opinion, he simply doesn't deserve anyones time or energy at all. I will allow for my time on him though, which will be used to constantly point out to him the pathetic error of his alien and non-human communication style which is just absolutely stupid beyond belief.

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I think his style of communication is a direct consequence of his autism which is not something he can change
So once I know that he cannot really change the way he communicates then I simply accept him for who he is

We are all unique and some of us take a bit longer to be understood or accepted than others
But the uniqueness of individuals is actually one of the very best things about forums like this

It would be a very boring [ albeit more efficient ] world if we were all the same
I for one certainly have no desire to be like anyone else as I prefer to be just me

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:29 pm Too much mental energy would be required for me to think there was no such thing as the mind
Also the bizarre paradox of me using my own mind to convince itself that it is merely an illusion

The paradox is, is that life is functioning automatically and spontaneously in every moment totally without a mind. And yet it is that only the mind of 'thought' that seems to dam up this freeflowing flux of being, by artificially freeze framing what is not happening into what happened, by superimposing certain preferences onto it. It's these preferences that are nothing more than pure fictions that cause all the commotion that is the appearance of human mentation...albeit an illusion.

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:29 pmAn illusion can be very credible indeed if it appears convincing enough just as reality can be very non credible if it is not convincing enough
The thing that allows me to think is what I call my mind regardless of anything else so it makes no difference to me whether or not it is real

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:45 pm I think his style of communication is a direct consequence of his autism which is not something he can change
So once I know that he cannot really change the way he communicates then I simply accept him for who he is

Yes, I know that acceptance for who he is, is the key to allowing him to be. But then on the other hand, he should also accept others for who they are and not keep trying too hard to gain their acceptance by believing that what he says is the only truth. It's obvious that what he wants from others is to totally accept what he is talking about, because it really does seem like this is his main goal here. He constantly tries to gain acceptance of how he expresses himself using language and words. He wants other people to accept that what he says is the absolute truth that will lead every person to live in peace and harmony, he's even addmitted that this is his agenda to SHOW people how it is possible to live in harmony and peace with each other, and yet all he seems to do is the opposite of what he wants.

So, really, it is not really fair to expect other people to accept his way or else it's the highway. I'm just not going to bow to his obvious demand for acceptance.

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Dontaskme wrote:
The paradox is that life is functioning automatically and spontaneously in every moment totally without a mind

I think that mind is part of life not something imaginary or separate from it because its non existence makes less sense than its existence
Thoughts arising from minds are life at its most complex as the human brain is at this point in time the most complex organ known to man
So it logically follows that if thoughts exist then they must be real and by inference then so too must the place they come from : the mind

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:45 pm

We are all unique and some of us take a bit longer to be understood or accepted than others
But the uniqueness of individuals is actually one of the very best things about forums like this

Well surely of course there is uniqueness of being and expressing oneself, but then there is also the presence of blatant domination and dictatorship, where discussion becomes nothing but a battle of the wills over the desire to win the opponent over to their side of the argument by forcing the other person into acceptance of what's being talked about. This is just tedious mental mind bashing and has got nothing to do with being boring if people are all the same .