RCSaunders wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:44 pm
Your theory that Atheism is merely the claim not to believe in any gods. It's manifestly not true, if most of the world's famous Atheists were, in your view, real "Atheists" at all.
Just because someone does not believe in any God, does not necessarily mean they believe some other thing that you describe as a creed.
Their own words mean it.
...it is perfectly possible to just not believe in a deity.
It's "perfectly possible" to choose to "believe" anything, regardless of its coherence or warrant.
But a man who just "doesn't happen to believe in X" has no opinion about X, and is agnostic (meaning "unknowing" about it). On the other hand, a man who actively chooses to disbelieve in an entity he has warrant to think could possibly exist is merely being foolish, foreclosing on a question for which he has no warrant to know anything either way, and closing his own mind totally arbitrarily, by his own admission.
An open-minded person would say, "It's possible there is a God, and possible there's not; until I have further information, I will take no position on that." But one who takes the position, "I choose to
disbelieve in God" needs to have rational warrant for his disbelief, if he's a rational man. That turns his merely negative claim into a positive claim of knowledge -- into a credal claim.
Not believing in a deity is also not a matter of agnosticism or ignorance. I've certainly heard of astrology and know what it is supposed to be, which is why I do not believe in it.
But you have warrant for disbelieving in astrology. You have information concerning the planets and stars. But you say you have none regarding God; you even say you don't understand the very concept
It's a kind of nonsense which has no meaning.
Then you are warranted in admitting that you simply do not understand
the concept posited -- whereas, perhaps, others do. That is also not warrant for disbelief, but rather warrant for an expression of confusion or a request for further information. So disbelief is still not warranted by that argument.