Dubious wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:08 pm
It also depends from what perspective god and all its appendages is viewed. Historically considered the entire concept can be discounted since it only has a record of created gods and how they developed; from a philosophical aspect one can mindtrip on god in any manner one likes. From a theistic point of view god is a fixed entity that demands belief and total subservience to maintain itself not unlike a divine dictatorship ruling by divine right. It's ultimate injunction is to yield if you know what's good for you.
Dubious wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:47 pm
No! It doesn't ring true at all. Consider the other side of the coin. How have religions, especially the controlling agents of Christianity, used god as the ultimate opportunity to enrich themselves throughout its entire history.
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What are tithes?
What religion, or any tribe, does not try to profit from it's con game and maintain it's existence?
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:04 am
Seems to me: if a guy doesn't think god exists, and doesn't spend a whole whack of time thinkin' about it, then he's an atheist (or mebbe an apatheist).
But: if that guy instead evidences an active, venomous hatred for believers, god-belief, or god, goin' so far as to write books & essays or forum posts denouncin' believers, god-belief, or god, then he's an anti-theist, as invested in god as the theist, as much a believer as the theist.
So if you see an ideology going around doing a lot of damage by misogynous and homophobic thinking, and the promotion of a satanic god, you will just let it. Right?
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:04 am
... if that guy instead evidences an active, venomous hatred for believers, god-belief, or god, goin' so far as to write books & essays or forum posts denouncin' believers, god-belief, or god, then he's an anti-theist, as invested in god as the theist, as much a believer as the theist.
That's good, Henry. The only exception might be when, if a theist uses his own beliefs as an argument for some philosophical concept, like human nature being depraved, for example, it might be necessary to address the theistic belief to address the philosophical mistake. Otherwise, I agree, the militant anti-theist is promoting an ideology of sorts.
Indeed, and they are usually moral as compared to the immorality in preached by religions.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:04 am
Seems to me: if a guy doesn't think god exists, and doesn't spend a whole whack of time thinkin' about it, then he's an atheist (or mebbe an apatheist).
But: if that guy instead evidences an active, venomous hatred for believers, god-belief, or god, goin' so far as to write books & essays or forum posts denouncin' believers, god-belief, or god, then he's an anti-theist, as invested in god as the theist, as much a believer as the theist.
So if you see an ideology going around doing a lot of damage by misogynous and homophobic thinking, and the promotion of a satanic god, you will just let it. Right?
Or do you push the more moral ideology?
Regards
DL
I avoid folks with rotten ideas, I don't punish 'em
punish the folks who actually, in a tangible way, deprive others of life, liberty, or property
for example: Joe thinks I'm goin' to hell cuz I'm a deist...I'll tell Joe to kiss my ass and go about my business; Joe tries to send me to hell...I shoot Joe in the face
