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I'm a Theist

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm
by BardoXV
More specifically a Lutheran but I listen to a lot of Atheist programs and call-in shows. Mostly I agree with the Atheist as they demolish the Theist who tries to prove the existence of God. I look at the old testament as parabel since Jesus had to learn the practice somewhere.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 pm
by henry quirk
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm More specifically a Lutheran but I listen to a lot of Atheist programs and call-in shows. Mostly I agree with the Atheist as they demolish the Theist who tries to prove the existence of God. I look at the old testament as parabel since Jesus had to learn the practice somewhere.
I'm a deist, doc, so: I don't have to listen to anybody... 8)

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am
by Veritas Aequitas
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm More specifically a Lutheran but I listen to a lot of Atheist programs and call-in shows. Mostly I agree with the Atheist as they demolish the Theist who tries to prove the existence of God. I look at the old testament as parabel since Jesus had to learn the practice somewhere.
So do you still believe God exists as real?

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:28 am
by Age
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm More specifically a Lutheran but I listen to a lot of Atheist programs and call-in shows. Mostly I agree with the Atheist as they demolish the Theist who tries to prove the existence of God. I look at the old testament as parabel since Jesus had to learn the practice somewhere.
So do you still believe God exists as real?
Could God exist as NOT real?

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:00 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Age wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:28 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm More specifically a Lutheran but I listen to a lot of Atheist programs and call-in shows. Mostly I agree with the Atheist as they demolish the Theist who tries to prove the existence of God. I look at the old testament as parabel since Jesus had to learn the practice somewhere.
So do you still believe God exists as real?
Could God exist as NOT real?
So real like the God of Herbert Mullin's who obeyed his very real God to kill 13 people?

Herbert Mullin's God
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Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:05 am
by Age
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:00 am
Age wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:28 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am
So do you still believe God exists as real?
Could God exist as NOT real?
So real like the God of Herbert Mullin's who obeyed his very real God to kill 13 people?

Herbert Mullin's God
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27867
Either answer the actual question asked, or do not. Deflecting does nothing for me.

Could God exist as NOT real?

If no, then there is NO use adding the words 'as real' after you use the words 'God exists'.

If yes, then HOW?

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:08 am
by Age
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm More specifically a Lutheran but I listen to a lot of Atheist programs and call-in shows. Mostly I agree with the Atheist as they demolish the Theist who tries to prove the existence of God. I look at the old testament as parabel since Jesus had to learn the practice somewhere.
But proving God exists is FAR easier and far simpler than proving God does not exist.

The reason WHY the so called "atheist" demolish the so called "theist", who 'tries to' prove the existence of God, is because the perspective from the so called "atheist" they have NO real concept of what God actually IS yet.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:18 am
by Dontaskme
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pmI'm a Theist
The I cannot be a Theist. The I can only know 'theist' as a concept OF I - but not be I - as I cannot be the concept I know.

No ''theist'' has ever been seen, only KNOWN.

The seer of the known is I and I cannot be the known for the known know and see no thing but I

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Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:11 pm
by BardoXV
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am
So do you still believe God exists as real?
I believe that God exists, beyond that there is very little that I can say for sure.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:11 pm
by BardoXV
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:18 am
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pmI'm a Theist
The I cannot be a Theist. The I can only know 'theist' as a concept OF I - but not be I - as I cannot be the concept I know.

No ''theist'' has ever been seen, only KNOWN.

The seer of the known is I and I cannot be the known for the known know and see no thing but I

.
Interesting ideas.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:20 pm
by BardoXV
Age wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:08 am
BardoXV wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm More specifically a Lutheran but I listen to a lot of Atheist programs and call-in shows. Mostly I agree with the Atheist as they demolish the Theist who tries to prove the existence of God. I look at the old testament as parabel since Jesus had to learn the practice somewhere.
But proving God exists is FAR easier and far simpler than proving God does not exist.

The reason WHY the so called "atheist" demolish the so called "theist", who 'tries to' prove the existence of God, is because the perspective from the so called "atheist" they have NO real concept of what God actually IS yet.
Most Theists fail at trying to prove God's existence, How could an Atheist have a concept of God if they don't believe in Gods existence?
Why do you use the term "so called Atheist"?
Most Atheists use logic to determine that they have no proof of God's existence but since when does God or the Universe follow Human rules of logic?

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:24 pm
by BardoXV
henry quirk wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 pm I'm a deist, doc, so: I don't have to listen to anybody... 8)
You still listen to yourself and I think you are not Nobody.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:26 pm
by BardoXV
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am
So do you still believe God exists as real?
I believe that God exists, but I don't know in what form.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:21 pm
by henry quirk
BardoXV wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:24 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 pm I'm a deist, doc, so: I don't have to listen to anybody... 8)
You still listen to yourself and I think you are not Nobody.
Yeah, but I trust me.

Re: I'm a Theist

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:23 pm
by henry quirk
BardoXV wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:26 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:24 am
So do you still believe God exists as real?
I believe that God exists, but I don't know in what form.
If I may suggest a form: Crom, he ain't never let me down (but, then he ain't done jack for me either).