surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:11 pm
Age wrote:
I have been for the last few years practising to not have or avoid thoughts . I have progressed this to about three to four seconds
Once I learned to recognize and notice the thoughts which arise within this body to then stop thinking altogether I also think is near impossible
It would appear to be easier to just let thoughts come and down go of their own free will rather than suppress them completely
Because I have done the actual experimentation, now I have the actual evidence and proof that it IS far easier to just let thoughts come and go. So it is not some thing just appears to be the case to me, but is the actual case to me.
But the issue that arises now is because thoughts control the behavior of 'you', human beings, if you were to just let any and all thoughts come and go, completely free willingly, then there is nothing controlling the right and the wrong that all 'you' adult human beings do now, when this written.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:11 pmI have no real control over what comes into my mind but as I have said many times before I try not to hold onto them too much
And as I have asked for clarity many times before alsom Why hold onto, or even have, any thought, which could be wrong anyway? And as I also ask; Why not just remain always OPEN in order to be able to LOOK AT and SEE what the Truth of things actual IS?
Beliefs and assumptions, which are after all just more 'thoughts', are the main preventers and stoppers of being able to SEE the actual Truth of things.
When you learn and/or discover what thee 'Mind' actually IS, then with this Knowledge also comes the Knowledge of how to control the thoughts that naturally will just come and go, and when they are being controlled by thee Real and True Self, then living in peace and harmony with ALL "others" becomes not just now possible, but also very easy indeed, and very natural as well.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:11 pmI actually want thoughts in my mind in order to keep it active but at the same time I do not want them to control me
Whilst you keep using the word 'mind' the way you are, you are being controlled significantly. To prove this to be the case show evidence of what this 'mind' thing actual IS, which you say you want thoughts in. You say you want this 'mind' thing to be active, which you say you want thoughts within, but, if 'you' can not fully explain this, then that infers 'you're do not FULLY understand ALL of this. If 'you' do not FULLY understand what you say is 'you' WANT, then could it be the case that actually 'you' are being controlled, and thus NOT actually in control of things your own 'self'? Remembering do 'you' even yet Know what thee Answer IS to that common question; 'Who am 'I', actually?'
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:11 pmMost of the time I have no trouble in just letting them pass but some times there is blockage but it goes quite quickly
I think you will find in every waking moment there is no period of actual non-thinking. Even if there was a period of seemingly non-thinking there are thoughts for example like; "There are blockages," coming and going. The only real time there are periods of no thinking is when there is Knowing. The rest of the time are just periods of NOT recognizing the thoughts that come and go, or non-awareness.
Recognizing the thoughts coming and going is just being aware of them. This is where Awareness, in relation to Consciousness, comes into play. When one is Aware of the thoughts, which arise within that body, and can and does change those thoughts from what IS wrong in Life to what IS right in Life, then this is when the Conscious Being, or thee Consciousness One, is in control of things. When Thy Real Self is in FULL control, then it's when what is Truly sought and wanted by EVERY One is being Created.
But there is far more that needs to be learned and understood before what is being said here now, in this day and age of when this is written, is FULLY understood, and realized.