Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pm
Age wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:51 pm
If the thing "dontaskme" KNOWS that they can not be known because they are already being known by 'not-a-thing', then that sounds like you have defeated your own logic and conclusion, to me.
Not really. A ''thing'' can only be known in relation to it's opposite.
Where did this BELIEF come from?
Why can a 'thing' only be known in relation to its opposite?
What evidence is there for this claim?
If a 'thing' can be known in relation to another 'thing', then that 'thing' is NOT the opposite of the "other" 'thing'. They are obviously BOTH 'things'. Therefore, a 'thing' can be known in relation to a 'thing', which is obviously NOT thee opposite.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmDAM is known as a conceptual label,
"dontaskme", to me, is just a name, placed onto the 'thing', of which is KNOWN to 'me' and 'I'.
What that 'thing' IS is NOT a conceptual label, nor even just a label. What that 'thing' is, which is sometimes known as "dontaskme" is already KNOWN, by another 'thing'. Therefore, a 'thing' is KNOWN by a 'thing', which is the same and NOT the opposite.
To me, a 'thing' can not be known by any other 'thing' than a 'thing'. Obviously a 'thing' can not be known by 'not a thing' because there is NO such 'thing' as 'not a thing', which is REALLY just 'no thing' or 'nothing' at all, anyway.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmthe label doesn't know anything,
I agree.
And I do NOT know of any one who would think a 'label' knows any thing.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmno more than a label on the outside of a tomato soup tin knows there is tomato soup inside the tin.
Still agree.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmDAM is a 'thought' inside of conscious knowing, the opposite of unconscious not-knowing...
But the three letters D,A, and M. is a capitalized label for a body of held up water.
To me, "donaskme" is one label placed onto the person, which is just the non visible 'thoughts' (and emotions), within a visible physical human body.
These thoughts, some times known as "dontaskme" BELIEVE that a 'thing' can ONLY be known by its opposite.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmDam is known by consciousness itself when the image formed inside the mind...aka the 'thought'
For "others" to understand this better then those thoughts known as "dontaskme" would have to explain what 'Consciousness', Itself, IS, and what the 'Mind', Its Self, IS, and just HOW images form inside this Mind, as 'thought'.
There is a very simple and extremely explanation, by the way. But 'things' would NEED to be LOOKED AT from another perspective FIRST.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pm DAM wasn't D inside the womb. Inside the womb, D's real identity was just the pure consciousness with no image of itself. It is only when the thinking ''I am D'' totally stops that the Truth of who you really are exists which is consciousness.
Why would 'I' have to totally stop thinking the phrase, "I am D", to then realize and know the Truth of who 'I' really are, which is consciousness.
I have NEVER even EVER thought, "I am D".
So, I NEVER even totally started let alone totally stopped thinking that. But 'I' arrived at the (same?) Truth as 'I' am Consciousness, Its Self.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmAll there is, is consciousness.
If this were true, then how do 'you', the one existing withing a physical body, explain away ALL of the physical things in the Universe, and which the Universe is actually comprised of?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmAnd the mind of 'thought' is merely a reflection of that consciousness.
Before you stated that, "image is formed inside the mind", but now you use the words, "the mind of 'thought' ".
What is the 'mind of 'thought' ' exactly?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmOne aka consciousness can know oneself only with one's own eye of knowledge, and not with somebody else's.
To me, If "all there is is consciousness", then there could not and thus would NOT be a "some body else's", obviously.
To me, 'Consciousness' IS just thee Observer and Seer of ALL-THERE-IS, or in other words 'Consciousness' is just the One non-dual Knower of ALL 'things'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pmDoes she who is DAM require the help of a mirror to know that she is DAM?
DAM doesn't know, Dam is known as knowledge in-forms itself.
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This appears to complex the simple and make hard the easy.
EVERY thing is really very simple and easy to UNDERSTAND, so WHY 'try' and complicate and make hard what is essential ALREADY KNOWN, by an already ALL Knowing 'Thing', I might add.