Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:27 am
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:15 pmSure. Lots.
ok THANKS for your candor, i knew you were a Christian, but did not know you were a creationist.
now i know and i thank you for that.
per evolution/creation debate - the whole thing bores me to tears and i have no interest and have in interest in debating the issue. just so you know.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:15 pm
Let's start with this.
For the record - for you to know me better, and so allow proper debate (I welcome knowing you better for the same ends)
ends being, we find much in common and can learn from each other - of the opposite, find we have nothing on common and debate is folly.
as for myself, I not the vid you offered is from the Hoover Institution (I recognized the "moderator" - from at leat 10 other vids of the last 5 yr via YT).
I respect the Hoover Institution, as i do the Cato Institute (why they latter has no YT vids............no clue, i wish they would!). I respect both as a Liberal Libritarian (yes we do exist - though sadly in too small numbers).
for the record i LOATHE the Heritage Foundation, and few them as Social Facists.
I'm liberalm so that means i affirm liberal and maybe even sometime socialist ideals, but I'm not partisan (as i said i'm also a Libertarian), and so value both the Hoover and the Cato "think tanks" offerings.
per your YT link, i found the Christipher Loyd (lol) - the dopllgander with the septer - as the most wise one the panel of three, and on point near the conclusion of the vid (56 min mark).
Darkin's view was correct, but limited in time - last century. so not fully correct.
to clarify, i'm will not debate you per "evolution", i have no interest in that war.
HOWEVER, i must demand a clariification of your understandings of "evolution" (is your view of "evolution" the same as mind, and if not why)
My view of Evolution is that it is the same as Natural Selection (but greater - Natural Selections).
I reject the notion of Evolution creating a more successful animal/plant. instead it just created a successful enough thing to servive wel enough to not be killed by bacteria.
Bactertia -since 3 billon yrs ago - to to today are the penical(i fucking HATE English! - being none phonetic (fonetic) and me being Dyslexic- product of survival.
the top dog 3 billion yrs ago as today, just because man did not exist 3 billion yrs ago, and showed up a million yrs ago (depending upon Racist's views of what is human - so i amend a million yrs ago to 1500 yrs ago (and white of course).
to continue, Bacteria rule -then and now! - so the concept of "evolution" as being survival of the fittest (per man is wrong - germs are more fit!!!!!!!(they were the most fit before man, during man and will be after man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
So i affirm Evolution, not as a "lower form progressing" (man is weak!!!!!!!!!! germs rule!!!!!!!) but as a "common sense" expalanation of what we see and know here and now!
---so do you understand the concept of Evoluton, and if you do and are a creationist - i wish you well but will not debate,
do you not have my understanding of evolution? if not lets debate!
well sounds like Nick was a dick and prob his own worst enemy, may your god show mercy upon his lost soul in the afterlife (if deserving).Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:22 pm
Well, Nietzsche famously said, "God is dead." And he did so with great rhetorical and literary flourish that impresses undergrads. He sure sounds like he knows what he's talking about, and he says a lot of brave, bad nonsense that young Atheists tend to admire. But they don't really read him, because he also says that the alleged death of God is going to be overwhelmingly bad for humanity -- it will destroy all meaning and morality, and leave us all spinning through a pointless universe on a journey to death.
;-(, power..............not one of the Seven. sadly.
IMO i think it should be one of the Seven, and so 8 sins.
yes, I watched Bruno Ganz play Hitler in Downfall (one of the top 1-percent films of all time - Ganz (Austrian? - not German (well of course Hitler was too!!!!!!!!! - lol) played Hitler better than hitler!.............i have no doubt Bruno is a nice man of conscience and just offered his tallent to play the infinate asshole (Hitler) for the film.
he succeeded fully.
people are people - good or bad - regardless of age, sex, religion or race.
i don't play identity politics.
I'd like to concur, of what i know of Nick i saw no iterest to learn more - if what you say about him is his views, then i concur with yours.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:22 pmPeople like Nietzsche primarily because of these features: he boldly insults Theism and God, he stylishly rages against moral restraint and allows us to make up our own choices about "values," and he seems to them to give them what they want -- complete freedom. It's all very adolescent, really. They don't read the dark side of Nietzsche at all. For them, he's a candyman.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:22 pmBut Nietzsche would (against his wishes) end up inspiring Hitler. And when you look at Nietzsche's philosophy, you can't find any moral code that would suggest Hitler was wrong to do what he did -- so Hitler is a permissible option within Nietzsche's system.
yes this has been my smell of the man since the 80's!!!!!!!
is this worth a thread sir?????)
I'd welcome a thread about your view of Nick (whom which a know nothing about, but assume you do!, please make a tread on this...........Poles (the many millions murders bet 39-45 appeal to you)).
weak minds are weak minds be they Beleivers are Athiests.
-so reject your implications here (dissparaging athiests).
you are not weak minded, nor am i - you a Christian, me an athiest - both as persons of strong mind (character defined by a nature more central and which/or no god to believe in) - we both affirm the shame principles of charity, mercy, humility and honour.
do you not?
.......................just as there are millions of retrobates (checking the boxes your/i require - check God/no god -etc............ they are sill ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! beleivers or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! their nature is BELOW your affirmation they (assholes!!!!!!!!!!!! - by a character that is MORE CORE then your Religious Codex mantra)....so they affirm your god, the fleece you, and kill/ rape etc......................while Christians affirming your god.