I have argued;firstname.lastname@example.org wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:00 amThis is plainly wrong. Throughout history Christians have always been committing atrocities inspired by teaching of the Bible, including the NT. The thing is: modern Christians have mostly adopted mild interpretation of their holy book, while many Muslims are still indoctrinated by more extreme interpretation of the Quran. The holy books of both religions can be interpreted in great variety of ways. This shapes the difference between extremism and the rest.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:36 amNote this big critical difference;
The major evil acts of the above are driven directly by the evil ethos within the Quran and intrinsic to Islam.
There are Christians who commit evil and violent acts but they are not inspired by the words of Jesus and the God of Christianity as represented in the NT.
It is the same with all other religions [Judaism?? = contentious] which do not inspire their believers to commit evil and violent acts against non-believers as a divine duty in the name of a God.
Still no significant difference?
P.S: Historically Christians had acted more violently than Muslims. The Crusaders committed genocide at Jerusalem while the Muslims didn't retaliate when they later recaptured it.
A Christian or a Muslim is a person who has entered into a personal contract [covenant] with their God to comply with the words of God with a promise of eternal life in heaven.
The terms of the contract are stipulated within the authorized texts of the specific religions, i.e. Gospel [OT, Acts, Epistles as supporting] and Quran respectively.
I have given the details re Who is a Christian-proper here;
Who is a Christian-proper?
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27654&p=428918&hil ... an#p428918
The above process for a Christian is the same for a Muslim.
For the Christian-proper, in the contractual terms he has to comply with, as in the Gospel, an overriding pacifist maxim, i.e. "love all - even enemies."
If a "Christian" had killed or committed atrocities, meant he was not acting as Christian per se because a Christian by definition has to comply with the overriding pacifist maxim "love all -even enemies."
In this case, Christianity per se has wisely established an "injunction" to ensure it is absolved from all evil and violent acts committed by its followers who acted on their own free will as driven by the evil propensity within their human nature.
A 'Christian' may have killed for the greater good as in the Crusades or other reasons, but such killing is not commanded by Christianity per se.
In this case, the 'Christian' killed by his own free will via his human nature and not by any command of Christianity. As such, the Christian will have to face God on Judgment Day for his sins, which can be forgiven or will be punished accordingly by God.
Note the element of a personal contract with God to comply with the contractual terms as in the authorized texts from God, i.e. Gospel is critical. This is very principled and objective.
Similarly for a Muslim, he would have entered into a personal contract [covenant] with Allah to comply with the contracted terms, i.e. the 6236 verses of the Quran.
The Quran, i.e. the words of Allah command and exhort Muslims to war against and kill non-Muslims upon threats with vague definitions [even cartoons]. (evidence available).
Yes, a holy book may be interpreted in various way by various people. But in the case of the evil and violent laden verses against non-Muslims in the Quran, they are very clear and direct. The whole context [ethos] of evil and violent directed at non-Muslims is supported by 54% or 3400++ verses out of 6236 verses (evidence available).
When a significant SOME Muslims commit atrocities, they are following the commands of Allah per their contractual obligations of the religion.
Therefore when 'SOME' Muslims commit atrocities it has a direct and everything to do with Islam.
PS. Historically, Muslims has killed as a religious duty more than "Christians" had killed on their own free will [nothing to do with Christianity].
Throughout the 1400+ years of Islam, Muslims compelled by religious duty had killed more than 200 million non-Muslims in various parts of the world and this is still happening at present and will be in the future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... by_Muslims
I bet you don't have any effective counter to the above.