If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

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Dubious
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Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Post by Dubious » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:38 pm

Because when something never existed there are no means available or necessary to "prove" it never existed. It doesn't get more complicated than that.

Veritas Aequitas
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Re: If the existence of God cannot be proved, why not?

Post by Veritas Aequitas » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:58 am

  • Argument P:
    P1. Either nothing exists or God exists.
    P2. Something exists.
    ----
    Therefore, 3. God exists.
Here is another perspective to why P1 is not valid and unsound.

The above "P1. Either nothing exists or God exists" is begging the question.

Rightly P1 should be;

Per Non Excluded Middle, i.e. either p or -p
  • Either nothing exists or things exist.
    Something exists
    Therefore things exists
Another point is;

"Nothing exists" is an oxymoron.
Re Wittgenstein.
"Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent."
Where we can speak of 'nothing' as existing, then it must be a thing.
Any other alternative to non-existence meant one must be silent.

Point is "exist" or existence always implies a thing* in existence.
* not necessary must be a physical object, even a thought is a 'thing'.
Thus P1 is not valid.

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