Depersonalization & Derealization and No-Me.

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Depersonalization & Derealization and No-Me.

Post by Veritas Aequitas » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:32 am

Those who claim instant encounters of 'No-Me, No-Self, No-Person, No-One, and the likes are likely to have suffered from Depersonalization or Derealization of some degrees from low to extreme.

The following notes are from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersona ... n_disorder
  • What is Depersonalization or Derealization.
    Depersonalization disorder (DPD), also known as depersonalization/derealization disorder,[3] is a mental disorder in which the person has persistent or recurrent feelings of depersonalization or derealization.
    Depersonalization is described as feeling disconnected or detached from one's self. Individuals experiencing depersonalization may report feeling as if they are an outside observer of their own thoughts or body, and often report feeling a loss of control over their thoughts or actions.[4]
    In some cases, individuals may be unable to accept their reflection as their own, or they may have out-of-body experiences.[5]

    Derealization is described as detachment from one's surroundings. Individuals experiencing derealization may report perceiving the world around them as foggy, dreamlike/surreal, or visually distorted.[4] In addition to these depersonalization-derealization disorder symptoms, the inner turmoil created by the disorder can result in depression, self-harm, low self-esteem, panic attacks, phobias, etc. It can also cause a variety of physical symptoms, including chest pain, blurry vision, visual snow, nausea, and the sensation of pins and needles in one's arms or legs.

    The Degrees of Depersonalization& Derealization
    While depersonalization-derealization disorder was once considered rare, lifetime experiences with it occur in about 1–2% of the general population. The chronic form of the disorder has a reported prevalence of 0.8 to 1.9%.[12]
    While these numbers may seem small, depersonalization/derealization experiences have been reported by a majority of the general population, with varying degrees of intensity.[13]
    While brief episodes of depersonalization or derealization can be common in the general population, the disorder is only diagnosed when these symptoms cause substantial distress or impair social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.[14]

    Causes
    Depersonalization-derealization disorder is thought to be caused largely by interpersonal trauma such as childhood abuse.[6]
    Triggers may include significant stress, cannabis or hallucinogen use.[6] It is unclear whether genetics plays a role; however, there are many neurochemical and hormonal changes in individuals with depersonalization disorder.[6] The disorder is typically associated with cognitive disruptions in early perceptual and attentional processes.[7]

    Diagnostic criteria for depersonalization-derealization disorder include, among other symptoms, persistent or recurrent feelings of detachment from one's mental or bodily processes or from one's surroundings.[8]
    A diagnosis is made when the dissociation is persistent and interferes with the social and/or occupational functions of daily life.
    However, accurate descriptions of the symptoms are hard to provide due to the subjective nature of depersonalization/derealization and persons' ambiguous use of language when describing these episodes.
    In the DSM-5, it was combined with Derealization Disorder and renamed Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder (DDPD).[9] In the DSM-5, it remains classified as a dissociative disorder, while the ICD-10 calls it depersonalization-derealization syndrome and classifies it as a neurotic disorder.[10]

    Although the disorder is an alteration in the subjective experience of reality, it is not a form of psychosis, as the person is able to distinguish between their own internal experiences and the objective reality of the outside world.
    During episodic and continuous depersonalization, the person can distinguish between reality and fantasy. In other words, the grasp on reality remains stable at all times.
The above mentioned causes of Depersonalization & Derealization can be due to cannabis or hallucinogen use [6].
Various degrees of Depersonalization & Derealization can happen within those who are involved in a various spiritual paths [good or evil], other mental illness, brain damage, various drugs, electronic stimulation, or even during sex, and many other reasons that trigger the neural circuits to be activated and producing such a state of detachment, i.e. no-Me and the likes.


The point is the experience of the Depersonalization & Derealization which qualify as 'spiritual' must occur within a Framework and System of Spirituality where such experiences are framed in a control system.

The danger is when there is a claim for any experience of Depersonalization & Derealization and it is linked and conflated as a spiritual experience. This is what is happening within the pseudo-advaita community.
https://www.gurusfeet.com/blog/neo-adva ... thy-conway

When such experiences of instant Depersonalization & Derealization did not arise from a spiritual framework and system with an inbuilt control system, they are vulnerable to be exploited for evil purposes if the person involved has an active evil tendency - i.e. is evil prone.
Note the many cases of cult leaders who create more evil acts and sufferings than joy for their believers. One good example is of such a cult leader within the non-dualist community is Andrew Cohen,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Co ... l_teacher)

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