Nope, I have never claimed 'the images/objects/things/concepts/ideas/beliefs.. upon the screen of your [my] awareness" to be reality as Absolutely real.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:41 pmYour mind is mistaking the images/objects/things/concepts/ideas/beliefs.. upon the screen of your awareness to be reality. They are NOThing but illusory appearances that have no reality in and of themselves, they are the living movie, the looked upon living movie of ''my'' story that comes and goes like a thief in the night..all appearing upon the blank screen of non-personal awareness...and seen and known by that only.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:32 amI know [empirically] who [the empirical you] is behind that monitor.
Stay there an give me your GPS location, I can get the local PI to confirm your empirical existence viewed and confirmed by from skype and by other means of empirical justifications that there exist is a real empirical you [person] using the nick 'DontAskMe'.
I have always claimed there is no such thing-in-itself.
Whilst there is nothing Absolute real, there are things that are relatively real, i.e. real enough to be critical for our survival.
What is relatively real comes in degrees of reality where the reality presented by Science are of the highest degree of relative reality.
You claimed there is an absolute reality-in-itself, i.e. ONENESS, Absolute and the likes that is the ultimate realness. I argued your claim of such is an illusion.
You have not countered to my claim it is an illusion.
I have noted subsequently after your explanation you do not believe in a soul that survives after death.I've never even claimed anything of the sort, so no, there is NO IfVeritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:32 amHowever if you claim there is a transcendental-me as a soul that can survive after physical death can go to some heaven or wherever, then I will dispute there no such thing as a transcendental I, me, you or any objects, i.e. as thing-in-itself
As for a transcendental ''me'' existing as a soul that survives death, is just another mentally created believed fantasy in your illusory story.
I have argued and agree the 'movies' on the screen of cognition is very real and very critical for survival i.e. relatively real conditionally, but it is not absolutely real.That which appears to transcend is in the dream of separation, a fictional character. There is nothing happening here, nothing to see in this one.
There is simply nothing here to make such a claim..And nothing equally that would survive death? ...You do know that the 'entity' is nothing but a concept, a hallucination which arises when consciousness mistakenly identifies itself with the particular form.
The movie on the tv screen may look real and evoke all kinds of emotion, but you just have to accept the fact that its just a movie at the end of the day.
What is a only "movie" at the end of the day is the only reality we have, albeit relative and not absolute.
I hope you understand the difference between relative and absolutely absolute.
While you denounced the only relative reality we have, you cling on to an absolute reality, i.e. ONENESS, Absolute [aka God], pure awareness and the likes. Such an absolute reality is an illusion and an impossibility.
Yes, the movie is only relative reality but what is critical is I can prove and justify that such a relative reality exists. If I claim the apple on the table, gravity, water, and whatever empirical objects exist, I can easily do that. If I claim humans as individual persons exist, I can prove such a relative reality conditioned upon the framework & system as defined.
On the other hand, you cannot prove the absolute reality that you claimed to exists as real. You have not been able to show any proofs.
In any case, it is moot as since your absolute reality is an impossibility there is no question of having to prove your absolute reality exists or not.