Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:36 pm
Relatively speaking all this is knowledge.
But what is the source of knowledge, is that not the absolute?
You cannot know anything until after you have become aware of that what you know. Awareness then must always be present and has to exist prior to knowledge..anything known is subject to change, but awareness of all change never changes...else how could change be known?
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Relatively to what?
Relative to not-knowning, relative to itself this not-knowing knowing.
Reality is unknown in the knowledge sense, so knowledge is a fictional overlay upon the unknown. Knowledge is of the mind, and the mind is an appearance in and of no thing.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:41 pm
Relative to not-knowning, relative to itself this not-knowing knowing.
Reality is unknown in the knowledge sense, so knowledge is a fictional overlay upon the unknown. Knowledge is of the mind, and the mind is an appearance in and of no thing.
Absolute uncertainty is equal to probability 0
Absolute certainty is equal l to probability 1
Both positions are equivalent to knowledge that can NEVER be challenged no matter how much evidence against it is gathered.
But once I assign a probability of 0 or 1 to a proposition, I can never undo it. No matter what I see or learn, I have to reject everything that disagrees with the axiom. I don't like the idea of not being able to change my mind, ever."
If you hold any beliefs that you are infinitely certain or uncertain about then you are dogmatic/religious.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:21 am
Btw, I have high regards for those accepting the ideas of non-duality, absolute [whichever], and the likes in the spiritual perspective. It is just that I have a counter view to the point that the absolute is absolutely absolute, i.e. totally independent.
Well that counter view would already be inclusive within Absolute Infinity.
Can you find the edge of your I ?
If there are no boundaries, then there are no parts of reality. In that sense, I am reality. And I'm also not "me" or "I"... simply "reality"
Absolute Infinity for eternity aka Reality.
The concept Independent is in the dream of separation, in duality, the world of opposites mind dependent.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:27 pm
Can you find the edge of your I ?
Yes I can. Probabilistically and in respect to spacetime.
Depending on your views on abortion the beginning of I is between 0 and 9 months before my birthday in a small town in Eastern Europe, on the coast of the Black Sea.
Assuming maximum life expectancy of humans is 125 years the end of I is between 0 and 90 years from now.Highest probability for end of I is 30-35 years from now. I hope it is in space while orbiting Earth, but it may be somewhere on the surface of Earth itself. My organs (if usable) are going to whoever else needs them. The leftovers are going to medical research.
If you want a more precise world line - you are going to have to buy me beer AND wait for me to die.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:27 pm
Can you find the edge of your I ?
Yes I can. Probabilistically and in respect to spacetime.
Depending on your views on abortion the beginning of I is between 0 and 9 months before my birthday in a small town in Eastern Europe.
Assuming maximum life expectancy of humans is 125 years the end of I is between 0 and 90 years from now.Highest probability for end of I is 30-35 years from now. I hope it is in space while orbiting Earth, but it may be somewhere on the surface of Earth itself.
If you want a more precise world line - you are going to have to buy me beer AND wait for me to die.
Correct in the dualist sense.
But what about in the Non-dual sense?
I is also Absolute Infinity.
Can you find the edge of Absolute Infinity?
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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:00 pm
I is Absolute Infinity.
Can you find the edge of Absolute Infinity?
Infinities don't exist. If you don't believe me I can end your I with my Glock.
With your permission.
Infinity is not available to the relative I of beginnings and ending, edges and borders, because the relative I does not exist, except as knowledge which is an illusion, a real illusion.
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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:05 pm
If infinity is not available to the relative I of beginnings and ending, edges and borders, because the relative I does not exist, except as knowledge which is an illusion, a real illusion.
I have no idea what that means. Infinities are not KNOWN to exist.
I will consider any evidence you provide to the contrary.
To the I anything beyond any edge looks like infinity.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:05 pm
If infinity is not available to the relative I of beginnings and ending, edges and borders, because the relative I does not exist, except as knowledge which is an illusion, a real illusion.
I have no idea what that means. Infinities are not KNOWN to exist.
You cannot know you are Absolute Infinity.
Because you are IT.
The Absolute is the KNOWING that cannot be known twice.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:13 pm
The I cannot look beyond the horizon, it cannot cross the horizon because there is nothing outside of infinity.
So you have defined infinity as the boundary of your awareness? Which may or may not be the boundary of the observable universe (whichever conception of it you wish to use).
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:13 pm
The I cannot look beyond the horizon, it cannot cross the horizon because there is nothing outside of infinity.
So you have defined infinity as the boundary of your awareness? Which may or may not be the boundary of the observable universe (whichever conception of it you wish to use).
There is no (your) awareness, there is only infinite boundless awareness one without a second.
Oneness that cannot be defined, yet defining is it.
Infinite possiblity experiecing in finite experiences.
There is no one looking at the universe, the universe is the infinite looker looking at relative images of itself.
