Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
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Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.
Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.
Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?
Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?
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Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.
Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.
Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?
Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?
Regards
DL
Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
If I see a tree and pull it apart to understand it, and in doing so destroy it, do I know the tree anymore?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 4:10 pm Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.
Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.
Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?
Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?
Regards
DL
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Funny I don't see Adam and Eve around so I don't see any ongoing punishment for them. Are you referring to the concept of original sin?
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Yes, in memory, and you gain understanding od all the trees.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:17 pmIf I see a tree and pull it apart to understand it, and in doing so destroy it, do I know the tree anymore?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 4:10 pm Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.
Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.
Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?
Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?
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DL
What that has to do with the question is beyond me though.
Care to speak to the issues in the O.P. or explain your strange answer?
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
That is what Christianity called the events in Eden, so yes, Original Sin.Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:34 pm Funny I don't see Adam and Eve around so I don't see any ongoing punishment for them. Are you referring to the concept of original sin?
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The Jews read it as Original Virtue and I am not sure why Christianity reversed the moral of the story from our elevation to our fall.
Perhaps you have an idea about that.
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
I'm not the one to consult in this area.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:00 pmThat is what Christianity called the events in Eden, so yes, Original Sin.Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:34 pm Funny I don't see Adam and Eve around so I don't see any ongoing punishment for them. Are you referring to the concept of original sin?
PhilX
The Jews read it as Original Virtue and I am not sure why Christianity reversed the moral of the story from our elevation to our fall.
Perhaps you have an idea about that.
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DL
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Are religious fables, without source in reality, really worth our time?
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
??Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:17 pmI'm not the one to consult in this area.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:00 pmThat is what Christianity called the events in Eden, so yes, Original Sin.Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:34 pm Funny I don't see Adam and Eve around so I don't see any ongoing punishment for them. Are you referring to the concept of original sin?
PhilX
The Jews read it as Original Virtue and I am not sure why Christianity reversed the moral of the story from our elevation to our fall.
Perhaps you have an idea about that.
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DL
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Common sense is all you need to apply to the myth.
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Given the damage that the Christian interpretation has cause with the ongoing misogyny created, I think that any discrediting of the Christian views women would applaud.
As the women in your family if equality is worth fighting for.
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Common sense tells me it's a fable not to get concerned with.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 7:19 pm??Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:17 pmI'm not the one to consult in this area.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:00 pm
That is what Christianity called the events in Eden, so yes, Original Sin.
The Jews read it as Original Virtue and I am not sure why Christianity reversed the moral of the story from our elevation to our fall.
Perhaps you have an idea about that.
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DL
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Common sense is all you need to apply to the myth.
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DL
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
Then you show your corrupted morals.
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
not so. Christian dogma says that Adam/Eve sinned due to that other tree, and neglects to know of the other tree.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 4:10 pm
Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.
dogma equates the Tree of Knowledge with the Tree of Life, and in fact compounds the confusion by claiming the latter is in fact Jesus Christ (where that leaves the Jews - who knows).
Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
really? never heard this.
i doubt Saul had an original idea - including his of "original sin".
Ihave always assumed it happened around 300-200 BC - latter Judaism.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:00 pm and I am not sure why Christianity reversed the moral of the story from our elevation to our fall.
Perhaps you have an idea about that.
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DL
Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?
commen sense is from a simple reading of Genesis - where "eyes were open, knowing oneself as naked "as Gods"".Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 7:19 pm??Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:17 pmI'm not the one to consult in this area.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 6:00 pm
That is what Christianity called the events in Eden, so yes, Original Sin.
The Jews read it as Original Virtue and I am not sure why Christianity reversed the moral of the story from our elevation to our fall.
Perhaps you have an idea about that.
Regards
DL
PhilX
Common sense is all you need to apply to the myth.
Regards
DL
clearly a Rise - not a fall.