As far as we know there has only ever been something, plenty of it being too subtle for us to detect from our limited perspective as relative Flatlanders on the Earth's surface. That we have found out as much as we have is an extraordinary achievement.Nick_A wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:29 pmZero may be nothing in terms of math but I’ve come to appreciate zero also as a limit in order to understand the relationship of dimensions.Reflex wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:09 amDoes that go for me, too? It is here we part company, Nick.

In mathematics, zero and infinity represent powerful adversaries at either end of the realm of numbers that are used in modern science. Yet, zero and infinity are two sides of the same coin -- equal and opposite, yin and yang. "Multiply zero by anything and you get zero. Multiply infinity by anything and you get infinity. Dividing a number by zero yields infinity; dividing a number by infinity yields zero. Adding zero to a number leaves the number unchanged. Adding a number to infinity leaves infinity unchanged." Yet, the biggest questions in science, philosophy, and religion are about nothingness and eternity, the void and the infinite, zero and infinity.

I take from this that, in a sense, God is nothing.

Zero has no dimensions and best considered a “limit.” The first dimension is length and is understood a as spanning zero to infinity. The second dimension is created by extending lines out from the first dimension creating an infinite plane. This process continues creating the dimensions of universal realities.

[Always the same infinitely small, which is infinitely more than all.]

If zero is a limit with no dimensions it can refer both to NO-THING or consciousness within which all potentials exist and NOTHING void of any potential. Two limits and both are zero. I believe God is No-thing beyond the scope time and space as opposed to nothing; void of potential. Creation then is a process existing within the eternal present or NOW. Zero then can be appreciated as both infinitely small and large in terms of the process of creation. However the manifestation of a potential may appear larger than the potential which appears small but actually the potential or idea is more than the manifestation.

While NOTHING appears to be purely a relative concept, I think most people take infinity as a given, that reality doesn't seem to have an edge - and even if it did, it might be growing at an incomprehensible speed, in which case infinity is as good a description for it as any. While nothing is purely relative, infinity is basically a shrug of resignation by little beings within a much larger entities, well within a nested fractal Russian doll reality.