Is this proof that priests, preachers and imams are all perpetual liars?
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Please, I was visited by the mystical perfection of seven prophetic visions, four visual, two auditory and one automatic writing.
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Re: Is this proof that priests, preachers and imams are all perpetual liars?
And Scrooge was visited by the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future.bobevenson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:06 pm Please, I was visited by the mystical perfection of seven prophetic visions, four visual, two auditory and one automatic writing.
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Re: Is this proof that priests, preachers and imams are all perpetual liars?
Why would the obvious require proof?
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What's obvious to a prophet is not necessarily obvious to the hoi polloi.
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Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:07 pm Is this proof that priests, preachers and imams are all perpetual liars?
Compare the religious nutter on this Forum.
They do not agree on the most basic facts about god, yet they all claim to know His mind.
This does not necessarily mean they are lying - that means intentional deception by telling a story you know not to be true - they might actually believe the stuff they claim. The fact that they all ignore salient logical points at will, and have profound disrespect for evidence, and seem incapable of simple reasoning over key matters points to self deception rather than attempting to deceive others.
The difference to their interlocutors is not less important. They may or not be trying to deceive, or simply in a state of self deception. What is important is that you keep your self respect, logic, and reason firm and do not let yourself succumb to the lure of the promise of eternal life, redemption or any other BS.
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Twice today, we are on the same page.Hobbes' Choice wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:28 pmGreatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:07 pm Is this proof that priests, preachers and imams are all perpetual liars?
Compare the religious nutter on this Forum.
They do not agree on the most basic facts about god, yet they all claim to know His mind.
This does not necessarily mean they are lying - that means intentional deception by telling a story you know not to be true - they might actually believe the stuff they claim. The fact that they all ignore salient logical points at will, and have profound disrespect for evidence, and seem incapable of simple reasoning over key matters points to self deception rather than attempting to deceive others.
The difference to their interlocutors is not less important. They may or not be trying to deceive, or simply in a state of self deception. What is important is that you keep your self respect, logic, and reason firm and do not let yourself succumb to the lure of the promise of eternal life, redemption or any other BS.
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Since when have theists believed in the obvious!
Re: Is this proof that priests, preachers and imams are all perpetual liars?
Lumping the clergy of disparate religions into one is in itself a lie.
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They often do not and I was indicating that they would be the only ones to explain their lack of common sense and logic.
They seem dead set on living by what martin Luther said.
“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”
“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”
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... into a common category, obviously.
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What's interesting about this quote is that atheists would never go to any such extreme with what theists believe, not in the Western sphere anyways proving how toxic theism really is.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:38 amThey often do not and I was indicating that they would be the only ones to explain their lack of common sense and logic.
They seem dead set on living by what martin Luther said.
“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”
“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”
Re: Is this proof that priests, preachers and imams are all perpetual liars?
mayhaps if one preached truth, with honesty a preacher wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
I would never ever listen to a preacher though, their track record for truth is abysmal.
I would never ever listen to a preacher though, their track record for truth is abysmal.
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