"The moment you follow someone you cease to follow the Truth."

[Dontaskme]

Religions may never take you to Truth Realization. Truth is a pathless land.

Religion is only a preliminary recipe. Truth realization has nothing big to do with following any Religion. Sometimes, religion may serve as a starting point, or via media for Truth Realization. More often, religions take one up to a certain point only, beyond which one has to use one's own ability to find out the Truth. Religions do mass mesmerization and keep people as underdogs for ever. The best way to realize the truth is to transcend all religious beliefs and think logically to find out the Truth as an Independent and unbiased man. For this, one has to read a lot and go beyond all blind faiths/beliefs. Books may also serve as direction signs only and never bring Truth Realization. One has to look at everything with fresh eyes using blank mind so that Truth Realization happen to us. All religious symbols, attires, mantras, phrases, rituals etc are mere belief systems meant to keep people under restraint and show the righteous path and will never take one to Truth Realization. Anything that creates division among people like religion, language, country, race, sect should be transcended to the maximum possible extent. One should transcend anything and everything that creates division among people and think independently to decipher the Ultimate Truth. Religion is meant only for the Unevolved, Weak & Fickle minded and not for the Evolved, Bold & Stable minded.

[surreptitious57]

Truth realization has nothing big to do with following any Religion
Does this mean that Atheism is closer to the Truth than Religion is

One should transcend anything and everything that creates division among people and think independently to decipher the Ultimate Truth
But would thinking independently in trying to decipher the Ultimate Truth not itself create division between its believers and non believers

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Is this supposed to be ironic?

[Dontaskme]

Truth realization has nothing big to do with following any Religion
Does this mean that Atheism is closer to the Truth than Religion is

One should transcend anything and everything that creates division among people and think independently to decipher the Ultimate Truth
But would thinking independently in trying to decipher the Ultimate Truth not itself create division between its believers and non believers

First of all there is no one here thinking independently - thoughts appear, but the thinker is nowhere to be found. Therefore thoughts are not real.

Atheism is a belief, it's an idea, a thought.

Thinking forms an energy known as that which divides the energy of''what is'' into ''what isn't''.

''what is'' doesn't think, it just is. It is here shining prior to any thought about it.

There's just ''what is'' without the filter of mind altering it. The thought does not know what the ''what is'' is.

The ''what is'' stands alone with itself ALL ONE

Truth is THIS immediate oneness all alone prior to any thought. Truth is what's left when all beliefs, thoughts, and ideas are absent. Therefore there is no truth and that's the only truth.

[Dontaskme]

Is this supposed to be ironic?

No because truth is not had by some one or some thing. Truth is totally naked. Truth doesn't wear the fake mask of identity aka secondary knowing. It's one with the knowing.

Drop all belief about your individual self and what's left is real self, the one self. Ironically, the real self does appear as an individual, but that's not the real self, it's the fake identity it uses to cover up it's nakedness.

Beyond the veil lies the immortal truth. But it's a darkened flame that cannot be touched my mortal man.

[BradburyPound]

Is this supposed to be ironic?

No because truth is not had by some one or some thing. Truth is totally naked. Truth doesn't wear the fake mask of identity aka secondary knowing. It's one with the knowing.

Drop all belief about your individual self and what's left is real self, the one self. Ironically, the real self does appear as an individual, but that's not the real self, it's the fake identity it uses to cover up it's nakedness.

Beyond the veil lies the immortal truth. But it's a darkened flame that cannot be touched my mortal man.

Truth cannot be universal. When two minds have found a truth and agree with one another, that truth might be strengthened, but it must withstand the test of correspondence with the world.

Truth is a relationship between the world and the mind that perceives it. "THE" truth is not out there; it is not immortal, it is not dark neither is it beyond humans. Humans generate all there truth that can be.

[Dontaskme]

Truth cannot be universal. When two minds have found a truth and agree with one another, that truth might be strengthened, but it must withstand the test of correspondence with the world.

Truth is a relationship between the world and the mind that perceives it. "THE" truth is not out there; it is not immortal, it is not dark neither is it beyond humans. Humans generate all there truth that can be.

Truth is not in or of the world. IMHO

So I don't agree with any of your comment, but thanks for your participation.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Truth cannot be universal. When two minds have found a truth and agree with one another, that truth might be strengthened, but it must withstand the test of correspondence with the world.

Truth is a relationship between the world and the mind that perceives it. "THE" truth is not out there; it is not immortal, it is not dark neither is it beyond humans. Humans generate all there truth that can be.

Truth is not in or of the world. IMHO

So I don't agree with any of your comment, but thanks for your participation.

Are you saying there is no Truth?

If so then are you saying that nothing is true?

It looks like you are agreeing with BP. Did you actually read what was written?

[Dontaskme]

Are you saying there is no Truth?

who want's it?

[Dontaskme]

Truth is a relationship between the world and the mind that perceives it.

The world is a belief perceived. You can only perceive what you believe. The perceived cannot perceive.

To perceive is to believe.

There is no perceiver, there is only perception which is beyond the minds understanding. The mind will claim it because what else is available, but it's all imagined.

From belief to clarity.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Truth is a relationship between the world and the mind that perceives it.

The world is a belief perceived. The perceived cannot perceive.

To perceive is to believe.

There is no perceiver, there is only perception which is beyond the minds understanding. The mind will claim it because what else is available, but it's all imagined.

This is borderline insanity. Pseudo-profound nonsense.

[Dontaskme]

This is borderline insanity. Pseudo-profound nonsense.

You can only perceive what you believe, and what you believe is the only reality. You can only experience your belief, not the belief of another.

[Dontaskme]

The human being is inclined and motivated to search for authenticity-no matter if that search is small or great, passive or active, intense or casual, subconscious or semi-conscious, understood or mal-aligned, or even IF he knows he is searching. Regardless of what he experiences as his life conditions, the apparent unnameable void remains. He can not possibly manipulate , influence, master, control or define it. This is what is being referred to when there is the sense of "fear and lack'' which dominates mankind. The 'lack' designates the un-ease (feeling something is definitively missing) found in the body/mind mechanism, and the 'fear' (that immutable numbing, dissatisfied unsettling sensation) of what is sought can never be found. However, truth bears witness of itself in the raw, unhampered, unmitigated and unfiltered authentic void of stillness that is always here.All those who come to drink from this nondual message will never thirst, again.

[Hobbes' Choice]

This is borderline insanity. Pseudo-profound nonsense.

You can only perceive what you believe, and what you believe is the only reality. You can only experience your belief, not the belief of another.

How can you be sure of what is going on in my mind?

[Dontaskme]

This is borderline insanity. Pseudo-profound nonsense.

You can only perceive what you believe, and what you believe is the only reality. You can only experience your belief, not the belief of another.

How can you be sure of what is going on in my mind?

I can't ..I can only relate to myself as a point of reference. But am I doing anything? who is this I ? was I ever born?


If you can't remember when you were born, how can you expect to die?

where is the beginning and ending of I ?

Where is the believer, the perceiver, the doer, the knower etc etc?