Greta wrote:So the mystics jump in to claim that, since science doesn't have the answers, they do. They can't explain themselves because the answer is "unknowable", that you can only feel it. However, just because they give subjective experience its due importance (a problem with western science that's only recently being addressed) does not mean the mystics know what they're doing.
Case in point.Dontaskme wrote:Seems everything is energy...and that matter is dead stuff which can do nothing without live energy input ...
It's the same for matter, it can't function without an electric current passing through it...we can call that electric current consciousness ...
When the body eventually dies, it just means the bodies battery has gone flat ...
Not Greta wrote:Whereas it is up to the metaphysicians and philosophers to interpret what those findings could possibly mean with respect to the grand mystery of "how and why" we are even here to ponder such things.
That post wasn't mine.Dontaskme wrote:This was never a mystery...it was more like an open secret.
Tis only the ego that seeks for the ''hows'' and ''whys'' ....as if there was something in this for me....and that's the cosmic joke...the joke was always on the ego....as if such a thing ever existed..
Whatever, you keep making confident statements that are simply wrong. It's far from only ego that seeks answers. It's also:
1) survival instinct *
2) reasoned survival/thrival strategies *
4) pleasure / entertainment
5) to gain a greater sense of connection through greater understanding.
If humans never embraced reason they would have been extinct long ago. We are slow, have small mouths, small blunt teeth, no claws, no armour or fur, just soft and vulnerable skin. You may not like where reason has taken us, but a lack of reason would have taken us nowhere at all.
* 1 & 2 are ego-based in the sense that the ego exists as a survival mechanism.