God 's power and the "heavy stone"

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God 's power and the "heavy stone"

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God 's power and the "heavy stone"
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The old paradox:
Can God make a stone so heavy that He can't lift it?
My opinion.
a)
Why does God need to create such stone?
Is He a stupid One? No, He isn't stupid.
He took another solution.
Instead such "heavy stone" He decided to create billions and billions
"small" Galaxies with many – many planets with reasonable people
( even if some of them would ask the question above).
b)
God can create the Universe only using physical-math laws.
And as a wise One He limited all physical-math parameters
in the Universe. These limitations show the God's power.
But a foolish doesn't know the God's laws of limitations and
ask the question above.
c)
The concrete physical-math answer to the question about
the "heavy stone" God gave as " the Chandrasekhar limit":
" Chandrasekhar calculated that a cold star of more than about
one and a half times the mass of the sun, would not be able
to support itself against its own gravity. This mass is now
known as the Chandrasekhar limit."
/ page 38/
"However, when he was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1983,
it was, at least in part, for his early work on the limiting mass
of cold stars." /page39/
Book:
/ The theory of everything. Third lecture. By Stephen W. Hawking./
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Once again: the limits of all physical laws and parameters show
the God's wisdom and Human's stupidity.
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Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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Re: God 's power and the "heavy stone"

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socratus wrote:Can God make a stone so heavy that He can't lift it?
A Leibnizian understanding of omnipotence as only being able to bring about logically-possible states of affairs settles this particular question fairly well, imo (though it brings up some issues elsewhere).
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Whilst not a 'stone', a mass can be so heavy as not to be able to lift it, though small in size, and gravity can interact with it.

As for a stone, gravity could be so great that, not only could it not be lifted, but the lifter would be prostrate on the ground from not being able to lift himself.

As for God, I've never seen him interact with a stone, or bugger-all else.
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socratus wrote: Once again: the limits of all physical laws and parameters show
the God's wisdom and Human's stupidity.
Admit it. You're just guessing, aren't you?
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Omnipotence is overrated and frankly quite a stupid concept.

God can't even reproduce without a human's help, so from a reproduction POV, man is more powerful than God.

If that sense, our stones are heavier than God's and we can lift our as required.

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§ 1. Vacuum: T= 0K, E= ∞ , p = 0, t =∞ .
§ 2. Particles: C/D= pi=3,14, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1.
§ 3. Photon: h=E/t, h=kb, h=1, c=1.
§ 4. Electron: h*=h/2pi, c>1, E=h*f , e^2=ach* .
§ 5. Gravity, Star formation: h*f = kTlogW : He II -- > He I -- > H -- > . . .
§ 6. Proton: (p).
§ 7. The evolution of interaction between Photon / Electron and Proton:
a) electromagnetic,
b) nuclear,
c) biological.
§ 8. The Physical Laws:
a) Law of Conservation and Transformation Energy/ Mass,
b) Pauli Exclusion Law,
c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Law.
§ 9. Brain: Dualism of Consciousness.
§ 10. Test and Practice: Parapsychology. Meditation.
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God is a Great code–maker.
But, as every code, God's code also can be cracked with the right key.
In my opinion the right key has two formulas.
The one is - T = - 273, 15. . . .
The second is – c/d= 3,14 . . . .
Using this key somebody, after strict analysis, can discover
who God is,
where God is
and how the God create the Existence.
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God must begin his creation in some reference frame and must use
some quantum particles which have some geometrical form.
a) For the basis of RF I took the zero vacuum T=0K.
b) According to the laws of thermodynamics the particles in T=0K
must have geometrical form of circle: c/d = 3,14 . . . . (pi)
c) According to QT the circle-particles have two (2) kind of own,
inner impulses: h and h*=h/2pi.
These impulses changed the pure zero vacuum continuum.
=..
Today scientists ignore T=0K as a RF of the Universe as a whole.
Today scientists don't know the geometrical form of quantum particles.
Tomorrow the situation will be another.
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God must begin his creation in some reference frame and must use
some quantum particles which have some geometrical form.
a) For the basis of RF I took the zero vacuum T=0K.
b) According to the laws of thermodynamics the particles in T=0K
must have geometrical form of circle: c/d = 3,14 . . . . (pi)
c) According to QT the circle-particles have two (2) kind of own,
inner impulses: h and h*=h/2pi.
These impulses changed the pure zero vacuum continuum.
=..
Today scientists ignore T=0K as a RF of the Universe as a whole.
Today scientists don't know the geometrical form of quantum particles.
Tomorrow the situation will be another.
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