attofishpi wrote:Greylorn wrote:
Perhaps you believe that the word Creator implies your version of Creator? If so, therein lies your confusion.
My version of Creator is more flexible, and avoids attributes such as omniscient and omnipotent. My Creators are limited by logic as well as by a very few fundamental properties of energy such as the laws of thermodynamics, (and I'm using "energy" in the strict physics sense of it).
I
know God is omnipotent.
I
believe God is omniscient, however i don't believe it knows the distant future.
I
know that God turning a glass of water to wine would not result in a thermonuclear energy release. God is ALL dimensions ALL existence...and i have witnessed more.
So why dont you tell me about these creators then perhaps i can at least get a handle on why you would dismiss aeons of mans interpretation of the omnipotent creator written into scripture.
"Telling" anyone anything on a forum is only possible if they are genuinely curious about one's perspective, open to it, and have obtained the requisite background understandings to make sense of a relatively succinct explanation.
In our case these circumstances do not exist. Given your beliefs, you could not understand brief explanations of conflicting ideas. The beliefs within your brain would screen them. You probably do not know enough physics to make sense of some important concepts. That is the way the brain works, so don't take my comments personally. Like most religious people (I was once one of them) your "knowing," which you assert because as a child you were programmed to believe the truth of doctrines, just like young Muslims, Mormons, Nazis, and communists, is just a program that your brain runs because it is the only thing your brain knows. It is a tight loop and a superb filter that will not easily allow the entry of conflicting ideas.
My brain was like that. The transformation from a closed brain to an open mind was a bitch.
The only way that you could come to an understanding of my ideas (which is a long way from accepting them) would be for you to peruse my book, "
Digital Universe -- Analog Soul." I wrote it for believers-- both of the conventionally religious type, and especially for atheists.
The conflict between Judeo-Christians and atheists comes about because they both believe or disbelieve in the same God. The existence of that God is not possible, so the conflict is inevitable. My book is designed to annoy both varieties of pre-programmed but ignorant individuals enough to open their closed minds to an alternative God-concept, but my design is not particularly effective.
Were you to peruse my book, which you won't, you'd first have to look up "peruse," and read accordingly. Expect to read it like a textbook, no faster than a chapter per week, with each chapter re-read and the content fully understood (no matter how disagreeable it might be) before proceeding. It will be the most difficult book you will ever read in this lifetime.
I do not recommend it, because your religious bias will interfere with your understanding. Your brain will be frustrated, and therefore angry, and it will transfer that anger to me. I have enough of that already. If you do choose to read it, let me know. I'm preparing a course format for readers that includes post-chapter questions that must be answered correctly before moving on.
Further attempts to induce me to explain complex ideas to unprepared individuals who are simply looking for a place to assert their conventional beliefs will be ignored.
