is the holy spirit bigger than the universe

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reakon the holy spirit is bigger that the universe because it the holy spirit has no size.the holy spirit is not local to the event it has no size or locality and therefor dosent move.is consciousness the holy spirit .reakon its got to be .
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John 3:8 NKJV
New King James Version

The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.
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jackles wrote:reakon the holy spirit is bigger that the universe because it the holy spirit has know size.the holy spirit is not local to the event it has no size or locality and therefor dosent move.is consciousness the holy spirit .reakon its got to be .
I would agree with you. Too often we try to describe/explain God from a human, material perspective. I’m not sure what you mean when you wrote, "is consciousness the holy spirit.” Are you saying that the HS is essentially only a “conscience” devoid of personhood or is it our consciousness?
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consciousness is pre existant of any event .consciousness never happened and has no size and it is nonlocality.it has no past and no future it is absolute to its self.it is what jesus called the alfa and omega of being.it is an absolute fact with out dimension..the consciousness that the brain sources at quantum level is the exact same as pre existant consciousness.so the event in the out side consciousness is the exact same as the consciouness on the inside of the observer brain.its the sizeless core of all that is was or ever will be.
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energy is the holy spirit in action state.
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jackles wrote:energy is the holy spirit in action state.
Then why call it both "energy" and "spirit"? If it's just the spirit (or wind or one-size/bigger/smallest/no-size soul or containment field) of the universe, what makes it holy?
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its holy cos its not corrupted by the event into selfishness.
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Scripture views the Holy Spirit as God.
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yes i would agree holy spirit and god is different words for the same thing.jesus teachings came from consciouse awareness.consciousness is therefor the holy spirt and therefor energy comes from consciousness.spirit has no size its beond the limits of size.there for all energy is in side spirit or consciousness.the individuals consciousness is god as there isnt anything bigger or smaller.sizeless is sizeless
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jackles wrote:its holy cos its not corrupted by the event into selfishness.
How do you know? If the spirit is outside the universe and you are inside the universe, how do you communicate with it, or discover anything about it, including its existence? The scripture from which you learn about holiness is also inside the universe, and somebody who lived inside the universe wrote it. How did they communicate with the spirit that's outside of the universe? How do you know they're telling the truth about it?
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for the holy spirit to be eternal it has to be sizeless cos thats what eternal is.and for the holy spirit to be eternal it the holy spirit has to be indistinguishable to its self which it is.so nothing is bigger or smaller than it the holy spirit.size only exists in a happened state.the universe is a happened state .the holy spirit isnt a happened state of its self cos it allways wos in existance it has no begining or end.
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jackles wrote:reakon the holy spirit is bigger that the universe because it the holy spirit has no size.the holy spirit is not local to the event it has no size or locality and therefor dosent move.is consciousness the holy spirit .reakon its got to be .
As the Universe means all that there is, any idea such as the Holy Spirit is limited by the size of everything.

The holy Spirit is smaller than the size of the human brain as it is contained by it.
If there were no humans there would be no idea of the Holy Spirit.
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jackles wrote:consciousness is pre existant of any event .consciousness never happened and has no size and it is nonlocality.it has no past and no future it is absolute to its self.it is what jesus called the alfa and omega of being.it is an absolute fact with out dimension..the consciousness that the brain sources at quantum level is the exact same as pre existant consciousness.so the event in the out side consciousness is the exact same as the consciouness on the inside of the observer brain.its the sizeless core of all that is was or ever will be.
The evidence demands that conscious appears recently in the history of the universe, and is limited to brain matter.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:The Holy Spirit is smaller than the size of the human brain.
And if we're talking about the size of your brain, that would be exceedingly small.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
jackles wrote:reakon the holy spirit is bigger that the universe because it the holy spirit has no size.the holy spirit is not local to the event it has no size or locality and therefor dosent move.is consciousness the holy spirit .reakon its got to be .
As the Universe means all that there is, any idea such as the Holy Spirit is limited by the size of everything.

The holy Spirit is smaller than the size of the human brain as it is contained by it.
If there were no humans there would be no idea of the Holy Spirit.
Think out the box (universe). The HS as spirit is not restricted to the confines of space, matter or time.

Nor is the HS dependent on the existence of human minds. Your statement is puzzling. The HS is not merely an "idea" alone but has personhood. Your example is analogous to saying that your parents didn't exist before you were born and had a mind with which to perceive them or an idea of them.
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