Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:27 pm
1. How far BACK are you looking?
The first human being came about AFTER 'you', human beings, came up with the label and name 'human being' and placed it onto that species, which 'you' ARE. So, whenever 'you' DECIDE 'that species' came into Existence, then that is WHEN the FIRST human being evolved into being.
Right, so you are saying the first human being came into existence when the label was labled as such. And a label is able to label itself?
Who else do you propose puts labels on 'things' besides 'you', human beings?
AND, I have NEVER even thought a 'label' is able to label itself, let alone have said it. To assume otherwise is absolutely ridiculous.
The 'thing' known as 'human beings' is what places 'labels' to 'things'. Human beings do this as doing it makes is much easier and simpler to make sense of 'the Universe' or 'the world', (whichever label one prefers to use), in which 'they' have found themselves within.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
Now all you have to do is figure out who or what labels the things that are conceptually known in life?
'I" ALREADY HAVE, obviously. 'you', human beings, are what labels the 'things' that are experienced and KNOWN, conceptually in Life, Itself.
Did 'you' NOT ALREADY KNOW this "dontaskme"?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
And if like you say, a human being which is a label labeling itself as such,
But I have NEVER said any such thing.
AGAIN, 'you' saying another Truly absurd and idiotic thing, and then 'trying to' propose that that is what I have said. This kind of Truly DECEIVING behavior, also, has already had a label placed upon it, that is; the label of 'red herring' or 'strawman' could be used here for what 'you' are doing here "dontaskme".
The 'thing' labeled as 'human being' labels itself. Obviously the label itself could NOT label ANY thing.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
then all you have said is that a label can label itself,...
'you', the one labeled and known here as"dontaskme", is the only one who has said this. And, the absurdness and ridiculousness of saying such a thing as this 'speaks for itself', as some might say.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
that's like saying the label on a can of tomato soup really knows that tomato soup is indeed inside the can?...
Well 'you', "dontaskme", are the ONLY one saying this. So, if even 'you' KNOW just how RIDICULOUS it Truly IS, then WHY even say it, in the beginning?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
it's like saying a body can just exist and give birth to itself without the need for another body to know it's been born.
This is even MORE RIDICULOUS that your previous claims here.
1. I NEVER said what you are 'trying to' make out I said, from the outset. So, this will always be moot.
2. Only 'you' have proposed any such thing as this "dontaskme". So, if this is RIDICULOUS, then 'you' are the ONLY to BLAME for it.
3. Obviously, ALL bodies just exist, and when two bodies COME TOGETHER, then THEY create some 'thing' else.
4. Bodies creating other bodies do NOT 'need' to KNOW that they have been born. But, by the time most human bodies are old enough to create new or more bodies, the person within has usually worked out that the body that it is 'was born'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
But that's rather silly isn't it?
Well considering that 'you', "dontaskme", are the ONLY one saying these things, and even 'you' find them 'rather silly', then 'I' will suggest to 'you' that 'you' STOP making them up and saying them.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:27 pmI answered it now, like I did previously. So, the answer to this question is a resounding, NO. Understand?
Obviously you didn't, can't and don't.
But I HAVE, ALREADY.
'you' just, obviously, did NOT, can NOT, and do NOT RECOGNIZE and SEE this Fact, and the reason for this is because 'you' have been and are continually BLINDED by 'your' very OWN ASSUMPTIONS and/or BELIEFS.
So, I will, ONCE AGAIN, suggest you STOP ASSUMING, and/or STOP BELIEVING, that I am saying things, when it can be VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY PROVEN that I have NOT BEEN.