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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:59 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:28 pm Agnostic Again
What do you mean "Agnostic Again" - EVERYONE is agnostic, unless they know for certain that God exists or for certain that God does not exist.

So right now I assume you are agnostic atheist.
Hence I'm an atheist. Not the slightest doubt here.

I'm as prone to thinking that there's a God as I am to thinking that Darth Vader really exists.
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:02 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:58 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:57 am

How do you know they are delusional?
Because once I was stabilized on meds I would realize that my beliefs were completely unfounded and off the wall. But I don't know. Maybe I'm delusional now and those beliefs were right. I hope not, though. I usually get paranoid and extremely terrified by my beliefs when I'm (seemingly) delusional.
Care to share?
Elaborate on my delusions? I become hyper-religious or else start believing in alien body snatchers or lizard people inhabiting the bodies of seemingly normal people around me.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:53 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:02 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:58 pm

Because once I was stabilized on meds I would realize that my beliefs were completely unfounded and off the wall. But I don't know. Maybe I'm delusional now and those beliefs were right. I hope not, though. I usually get paranoid and extremely terrified by my beliefs when I'm (seemingly) delusional.
Care to share?
Elaborate on my delusions? I become hyper-religious or else start believing in alien body snatchers or lizard people inhabiting the bodies of seemingly normal people around me.
Do you find it hard to sleep when in that state of mind - as in, are you rather 'hyper-thinking'?
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:01 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:53 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:02 pm

Care to share?
Elaborate on my delusions? I become hyper-religious or else start believing in alien body snatchers or lizard people inhabiting the bodies of seemingly normal people around me.
Do you find it hard to sleep when in that state of mind - as in, are you rather 'hyper-thinking'?
Yes. I find it very hard to sleep at times like that. I was awake for 5 days straight once in the hospital. No amount of the (albeit tame) tranquilizers they could give me would work. Finally, I drifted off on the 5 or 6th night or whatever and slept like a rock all through the morning.
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Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:30 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:01 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:53 pm

Elaborate on my delusions? I become hyper-religious or else start believing in alien body snatchers or lizard people inhabiting the bodies of seemingly normal people around me.
Do you find it hard to sleep when in that state of mind - as in, are you rather 'hyper-thinking'?
Yes. I find it very hard to sleep at times like that. I was awake for 5 days straight once in the hospital. No amount of the (albeit tame) tranquilizers they could give me would work. Finally, I drifted off on the 5 or 6th night or whatever and slept like a rock all through the morning.
Holy crap! Sorry to hear that. It just so happens it's 5am here, and I am feeling 'wired', can't sleep. I've got a couple of different meds to knock me out if i want, and the reason I am feeling like this is because I am not boozing! I am not having a drink until mid-March.
But ya, I am actually enjoying staying up all night and plugging away at designs for some art and stuff. I have to say, and especially since I no longer drink alcohol, I have more motivation and feel really positive - sometimes I think I might have some bi-polar to myself, but I have never truly tested to give myself an accurate way of determining since I normally hit the booze at some point - and that is the depressing shit, so will see if any depression returns without the booze. (oh yeah, I used to vape with nicotine - started smoking ciggys when I was about 30 due to shit happening, unfortunately this wanka nanny country where they want to get my tax dolllars from ciggys now require a doctor cert to get vape nicotine, so alas I returned to rollie tobacco for a while, and have given that the flick too) - so no booze - no nicotine, but I did just drop some codeine, which liver converts to morphine so feeling fluffyish right now.

I have to say, you are very open about some personal details, such as your feelings for a lady friend, and also there was something else - i remembered a couple of hrs ago, but codeine fuks my memory a tad, can't remember now. Oh yeah, I think it was you that said someone pretended to be talking to you (I think a partner (who is rather scum) to a friend or relative of yours) and was bullshitting that you were saying stuff that you weren't saying while on the phone to you.
When I read that, I just thought what a fucking low life to do that to you. (and deceive your friend\relative)

Do you drink alcohol?

Do you have interests - hobbies?
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:55 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:30 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:01 pm

Do you find it hard to sleep when in that state of mind - as in, are you rather 'hyper-thinking'?
Yes. I find it very hard to sleep at times like that. I was awake for 5 days straight once in the hospital. No amount of the (albeit tame) tranquilizers they could give me would work. Finally, I drifted off on the 5 or 6th night or whatever and slept like a rock all through the morning.
Holy crap! Sorry to hear that. It just so happens it's 5am here, and I am feeling 'wired', can't sleep. I've got a couple of different meds to knock me out if i want, and the reason I am feeling like this is because I am not boozing! I am not having a drink until mid-March.
But ya, I am actually enjoying staying up all night and plugging away at designs for some art and stuff. I have to say, and especially since I no longer drink alcohol, I have more motivation and feel really positive - sometimes I think I might have some bi-polar to myself, but I have never truly tested to give myself an accurate way of determining since I normally hit the booze at some point - and that is the depressing shit, so will see if any depression returns without the booze. (oh yeah, I used to vape with nicotine - started smoking ciggys when I was about 30 due to shit happening, unfortunately this wanka nanny country where they want to get my tax dolllars from ciggys now require a doctor cert to get vape nicotine, so alas I returned to rollie tobacco for a while, and have given that the flick too) - so no booze - no nicotine, but I did just drop some codeine, which liver converts to morphine so feeling fluffyish right now.

I have to say, you are very open about some personal details, such as your feelings for a lady friend, and also there was something else - i remembered a couple of hrs ago, but codeine fuks my memory a tad, can't remember now. Oh yeah, I think it was you that said someone pretended to be talking to you (I think a partner (who is rather scum) to a friend or relative of yours) and was bullshitting that you were saying stuff that you weren't saying while on the phone to you.
When I read that, I just thought what a fucking low life to do that to you. (and deceive your friend\relative)

Do you drink alcohol?

Do you have interests - hobbies?
I drink a little bit of alcohol but only to be sociable. My interests and hobbies are chatting with others on the Internet and playing computer games these days, though I do work as a Peer Specialist in the mental health system where I live. I don't remember posting anything about a friend bullshitting me. If I did maybe I'm having a delusional episode and don't know it. And if that is the case, I guess I'll just have to ride with it for now.

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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:57 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:52 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:44 am

You seem awfully normal for a schizophrenic. I would have thought perhaps bi-polar if anything.
I have had delusional episodes from time to time.
How do you know they are delusional?

Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:52 amMy diagnosis generally has changed with the doctor. I've been called schizoaffective by some and bipolar by others. I have a combination of a mood-related disorder and psychoses. So there is some disagreement among my doctors.
Bipolar's a c~nt. Schizo is a God send.


ps. This thread should have been in the Philp. Counselling area.
Why would schizophrenia be a 'god send'? Is that a sophisticated joke?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:08 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:57 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:52 am

I have had delusional episodes from time to time.
How do you know they are delusional?

Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:52 amMy diagnosis generally has changed with the doctor. I've been called schizoaffective by some and bipolar by others. I have a combination of a mood-related disorder and psychoses. So there is some disagreement among my doctors.
Bipolar's a c~nt. Schizo is a God send.


ps. This thread should have been in the Philp. Counselling area.
Why would schizophrenia be a 'god send'? Is that a sophisticated joke?
Not sure if you read the Schizophrenia thread in the lounge area, but ya, 'He' works in mysterious ways - as Arthur Daley would say, it was a nice little earner.

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Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:06 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:55 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:30 pm

Yes. I find it very hard to sleep at times like that. I was awake for 5 days straight once in the hospital. No amount of the (albeit tame) tranquilizers they could give me would work. Finally, I drifted off on the 5 or 6th night or whatever and slept like a rock all through the morning.
Holy crap! Sorry to hear that. It just so happens it's 5am here, and I am feeling 'wired', can't sleep. I've got a couple of different meds to knock me out if i want, and the reason I am feeling like this is because I am not boozing! I am not having a drink until mid-March.
But ya, I am actually enjoying staying up all night and plugging away at designs for some art and stuff. I have to say, and especially since I no longer drink alcohol, I have more motivation and feel really positive - sometimes I think I might have some bi-polar to myself, but I have never truly tested to give myself an accurate way of determining since I normally hit the booze at some point - and that is the depressing shit, so will see if any depression returns without the booze. (oh yeah, I used to vape with nicotine - started smoking ciggys when I was about 30 due to shit happening, unfortunately this wanka nanny country where they want to get my tax dolllars from ciggys now require a doctor cert to get vape nicotine, so alas I returned to rollie tobacco for a while, and have given that the flick too) - so no booze - no nicotine, but I did just drop some codeine, which liver converts to morphine so feeling fluffyish right now.

I have to say, you are very open about some personal details, such as your feelings for a lady friend, and also there was something else - i remembered a couple of hrs ago, but codeine fuks my memory a tad, can't remember now. Oh yeah, I think it was you that said someone pretended to be talking to you (I think a partner (who is rather scum) to a friend or relative of yours) and was bullshitting that you were saying stuff that you weren't saying while on the phone to you.
When I read that, I just thought what a fucking low life to do that to you. (and deceive your friend\relative)

Do you drink alcohol?

Do you have interests - hobbies?
I drink a little bit of alcohol but only to be sociable. My interests and hobbies are chatting with others on the Internet and playing computer games these days, though I do work as a Peer Specialist in the mental health system where I live. I don't remember posting anything about a friend bullshitting me. If I did maybe I'm having a delusional episode and don't know it. And if that is the case, I guess I'll just have to ride with it for now.

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Fair enough.

I'd recommend drink alcohol more!! - it's been a natural part of humanity since the year dot - fuck pharma crap, they are still experimenting on us when it comes to consciousness - nothing works better than a six-pack of nice cold beer :D

I like those ASCII characters you do btw.. I just found the 'gay' one i did.

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Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:34 am So in other words...
I'm going to give you the kindest advice I possibly can.

Be careful, Gary: we all answer for what we say. Don't say anything you wouldn't want to answer for when you see God.

Now, did you have a polite and appropriate question? If you do, I'll respond.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:47 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:34 am So in other words...
I'm going to give you the kindest advice I possibly can.

Be careful, Gary: we all answer for what we say. Don't say anything you wouldn't want to answer for when you see God.

Now, did you have a polite and appropriate question? If you do, I'll respond.
After all I've said and done to insult God, I just feel hopeless now. I feel like I deserve nothing but a shit sandwich. It's just frustrating. I was in love with a woman and got frustrated because she didn't love me and ended up driving her away from me by ridiculing her. Now I'm taking it out on God because I really wanted to be with her badly for the most superficial reasons I guess. She is absolutely a stunning woman and I have an enormous weakness for beautiful women, though I've never had any kind of real relationship with a woman before. I just feel so frustrated. I feel like a loser. Maybe I am.
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:26 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:47 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:34 am So in other words...
I'm going to give you the kindest advice I possibly can.

Be careful, Gary: we all answer for what we say. Don't say anything you wouldn't want to answer for when you see God.

Now, did you have a polite and appropriate question? If you do, I'll respond.
After all I've said and done to insult God, I just feel hopeless now. I feel like I deserve nothing but a shit sandwich. It's just frustrating. I was in love with a woman and got frustrated because she didn't love me and ended up driving her away from me by ridiculing her. Now I'm taking it out on God because I really wanted to be with her badly for the most superficial reasons I guess. She is absolutely a stunning woman and I have an enormous weakness for beautiful women, though I've never had any kind of real relationship with a woman before. I just feel so frustrated. I feel like a loser. Maybe I am.
Stop whining. I'm so sick of hearing about this bloody woman you are supposedly 'in love with'. Grow up. You should be pleased that weed is legal over there. Get stoned. Or, better still, get hold of some magic mushrooms. Apparently they cure depression, but as usual the hypocritical religioturd wowsers (i.e. their employers the pharmaceutical companies) spoil things for the rest of the population.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:30 am
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:26 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:47 am
I'm going to give you the kindest advice I possibly can.

Be careful, Gary: we all answer for what we say. Don't say anything you wouldn't want to answer for when you see God.

Now, did you have a polite and appropriate question? If you do, I'll respond.
After all I've said and done to insult God, I just feel hopeless now. I feel like I deserve nothing but a shit sandwich. It's just frustrating. I was in love with a woman and got frustrated because she didn't love me and ended up driving her away from me by ridiculing her. Now I'm taking it out on God because I really wanted to be with her badly for the most superficial reasons I guess. She is absolutely a stunning woman and I have an enormous weakness for beautiful women, though I've never had any kind of real relationship with a woman before. I just feel so frustrated. I feel like a loser. Maybe I am.
Stop whining. I'm so sick of hearing about this bloody woman you are supposedly 'in love with'. Grow up. You should be pleased that weed is legal over there. Get stoned. Or, better still, get hold of some magic mushrooms. Apparently they cure depression, but as usual the hypocritical religioturd wowsers (i.e. their employers the pharmaceutical companies) spoil things for the rest of the population.
Pot is not legal where I live. CBC oil (or whatever) is but it's expensive. And I stay away from illegal drugs just because I thought that would get me somewhere in life if I didn't. They always say avoid illegal drugs, so I did. I can't say I've gotten much of a social life from abstaining from drugs but at least I do good on job interviews when I tell them any background check or urine test should come back squeaky clean.
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:35 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:30 am
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:26 am

After all I've said and done to insult God, I just feel hopeless now. I feel like I deserve nothing but a shit sandwich. It's just frustrating. I was in love with a woman and got frustrated because she didn't love me and ended up driving her away from me by ridiculing her. Now I'm taking it out on God because I really wanted to be with her badly for the most superficial reasons I guess. She is absolutely a stunning woman and I have an enormous weakness for beautiful women, though I've never had any kind of real relationship with a woman before. I just feel so frustrated. I feel like a loser. Maybe I am.
Stop whining. I'm so sick of hearing about this bloody woman you are supposedly 'in love with'. Grow up. You should be pleased that weed is legal over there. Get stoned. Or, better still, get hold of some magic mushrooms. Apparently they cure depression, but as usual the hypocritical religioturd wowsers (i.e. their employers the pharmaceutical companies) spoil things for the rest of the population.
Pot is not legal where I live. CBC oil (or whatever) is but it's expensive. And I stay away from illegal drugs just because I thought that would get me somewhere in life if I didn't. They always say avoid illegal drugs, so I did. I can't say I've gotten much of a social life from abstaining from drugs but at least I do good on job interviews when I tell them any background check or urine test should come back squeaky clean.
It's long been known how beneficial 'magic mushrooms' are to mental health. Strange how antidepressants are handed out like lollies, yet they are responsible for a huge number of suicides, especially in the young who shouldn't be given them anyway.

Don't try to collect your own though. It takes a real expert to identify them.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:39 am
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:35 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:30 am

Stop whining. I'm so sick of hearing about this bloody woman you are supposedly 'in love with'. Grow up. You should be pleased that weed is legal over there. Get stoned. Or, better still, get hold of some magic mushrooms. Apparently they cure depression, but as usual the hypocritical religioturd wowsers (i.e. their employers the pharmaceutical companies) spoil things for the rest of the population.
Pot is not legal where I live. CBC oil (or whatever) is but it's expensive. And I stay away from illegal drugs just because I thought that would get me somewhere in life if I didn't. They always say avoid illegal drugs, so I did. I can't say I've gotten much of a social life from abstaining from drugs but at least I do good on job interviews when I tell them any background check or urine test should come back squeaky clean.
It's long been known how beneficial 'magic mushrooms' are to mental health. Strange how antidepressants are handed out like lollies, yet they are responsible for a huge number of suicides, especially in the young who shouldn't be given them anyway.

Don't try to collect your own though. It takes a real expert to identify them.
I don't know. I've heard it said that drugs can induce or exacerbate mental health issues such as delusions or mania and things of that nature.
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