Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:31 pm
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:04 am
Yes, I assumed this a myth as you and others should know by now that I'm atheist.
Were you a so-called "atheist" BEFORE you make ASSUMPTIONS, like this one, or is it your ASSUMPTIONS, like this one, that makes you a so-called "atheist"?
And, does being a so-called "atheist" mean that that one HAS TO SEE EVERY word or story, written in the bible for example, as being a myth?
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:04 am
If one is religious, would you be surprised if they simply begun a thread by assuming a default of truth to their particular scripture's story?
OBVIOUSLY, you have NOT YET WORKED OUT, by now, that, to me, NO MATTER what ANY one says, I suggest that it is much better for them that they have the ACTUAL PROOF, BEFORE they make the ACTUAL CLAIM. That way NO ASSUMING is NEEDED, and ONLY thee ACTUAL Truth is being said, shared, and told.
I cannot discuss this with you given YOU 'assume' that I
should require a response that
should satisfy you when I cannot even 'assume' you as being sincere to question me.
I suggest 'you' STOP ASSUMING ANY thing.
See, I was NOT ASSUMING absolutely ANY thing that you say and CLAIM I was here. And, even IF I was ASSUMING ANY thing here, WHICH I AM NOT, I CERTAINLY would NEVER ASSUME you 'should' or 'should not' do ANY thing, AT ALL. So, the rest of what you wrote WAS and IS therefore MOOT.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
I am already aware of your position regarding "assumptions". They are contradictory.
If you would like to begin to PROVE how my position regarding 'assumptions' is contradictory, then PLEASE go ahead.
But first off we will have to SEE what you SAY is ' my position regarding 'assumptions' ' just to make sure that you have it right, and to SEE that you are NOT just making ANOTHER Wrong ASSUMPTION.
We AWAIT your response and view here.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
Religion is based upon interpretations about reality that are BEYOND our ability to know by default.
Which is more or less EXACTLY like what the field of 'science' is based upon SOLELY. That is; 'you', human beings, making, and basing, 'your' interpretations about 'Reality', Itself, BEYOND 'your' ability to KNOW by default. And, when 'you' KNOW by, so-called, 'default', then it is NOT 'science' anymore, and instead just a Fact, which can NOT be refuted obviously. See, 'science' does NOT deal with Truths NOR Facts but ONLY deals with what is NOT YET KNOWN, or BEYOND 'your' ability to KNOW, 'by default'.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
The very word, 'religion' means 'of legend'
Does the very word, 'religion' mean; '
of legend', for EVERY one and how that word is defined in EVERY dictionary, and this meaning is taught in EVERY teaching of that word? Or, is this what the word 'religion' means, to you?
Also, and by the way, thank you for providing that definition and meaning here for us. That meaning fits in PERFECTLY with my views, and will come in VERY HANDY, later on. So, thanks again.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
and promotes FAITH as an essential 'assumption' regardless of any ability to prove real by any scientific means.
Do, some of 'you', people, who live in the days when this was written, have FAITH in the 'sciences', of 'your' days?
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
So the default to 'not assume' is to have no beliefs
assumed....thus no religion.
Okay, if you say so.
But, to 'not assume' is NOT to have 'no beliefs' AT ALL.
To 'not assume' is to NOT ASSUME, and, to 'have no beliefs' is to HAVE NO BELIEFS.
'Assume' and 'beliefs' are two VERY DIFFERENT things. Just like 'assuming' and 'believing' are two VERY DIFFERENT things as well.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
Any attempt at challenging this with you particularly has proven to be a waste of time and so I won't respond to futher digression on 'assumptions' with you.
What do you mean by 'further digression' here? From your eighth word in this response of yours here, and a slight 'digression' to providing the meaning YOU give to the word 'religion', you have been solely FOCUSED on 'assumptions', with me.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
[I believe that you are doing this on purpose and it is trolling behavior because you won't let anyone get passed your exponential explosion of infinite looping questions.
Do you REALLY ASSUME just little old 'me' could ask 'infinite looping questions'?
Also, I just asked you here the two VERY SIMPLE and VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTIONS:
Were you a so-called "atheist" BEFORE you make ASSUMPTIONS, like this one, or is it your ASSUMPTIONS, like this one, that makes you a so-called "atheist"?
And, does being a so-called "atheist" mean that that one HAS TO SEE EVERY word or story, written in the bible for example, as being a myth?
If you do NOT like to CLARIFY what the ACTUAL answers are, then so be it. But you have spend MORE TIME with your 'exponential exploding' response here than it would have taken you to just answer the two CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, Honestly.
But anyway, each to their own.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
If you are not doing this intentionally, then prove it by accepting our differences of opinion on the matter of 'assumptions' and let's move on to the discussion at issue.
OF COURSE we have DIFFERENCES of opinion on the matter of 'assumptions'. This has ALWAYS been ACCEPTED here.
Maybe if you had NOT been ASSUMING that this DIFFERENCE was NOT accepted previously, then we could have MOVED ALONG, a long time ago.
Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:27 pm
Otherwise, I won't further respond to your posts.]
But I do NOT want you to further respond the way you have been. I would prefer you just ANSWER the ACTUAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS I pose to you, so then we can Truly MOVE THIS ALONG. But ALWAYS REMEMBER that you are absolutely FREE to do absolutely ANY thing that you so WISH to do.