If God is the Creation of Man then God Exists

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If God is the Creation of Man then God Exists

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If God is a creation of Man then Man assumes the role of creator and thus is God; Man exists therefore God exists as God is made in the image of Man and Man is God as the creator of God. God is made in the image of God.
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"If unicorn is the creation of man, then unicorn exists."

Would anybody write anything that goofy?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:56 pm If God is a creation of Man then Man assumes the role of creator and thus is God; Man exists therefore God exists as God is made in the image of Man and Man is God as the creator of God. God is made in the image of God.
You may want to rethink those equations especially the first one from which the others follow. It's the easiest thing in the world forging an erroneous IF statement followed by corresponding THEN statements. By that technique you can create any kind of conclusion you want, no matter how unreal.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:59 pm "If unicorn is the creation of man, then unicorn exists."
And, OBVIOUSLY, 'unicorns' exist.

But maybe just not in the way some IMAGINE.
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:59 pm Would anybody write anything that goofy?
Some people, in the days when this is being written, still write and claim that; " 'God' is a "he" ", which "others" can CLEARLY SEE is FAR MORE, so called, "goofy" than what was written above.

I will suggest, ONCE AGAIN, that if ANY one wants to CLAIM some thing then it would be much more beneficial for them if they had the ACTUAL PROOF for their claim BEFORE they make the claim in the first place.

But, we do NOT need to ask, Why would ANY one write ANY thing as "goofy" as, " God is a "he" ", because WHY some people do write that Truly absurd and ridiculous claim is ALREADY KNOWN.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:59 pm "If unicorn is the creation of man, then unicorn exists."

Would anybody write anything that goofy?
Conscious recognition - a state of being conscious of being conscious, is consciousness itself. Consciousness is this immediate absolute, irrefutable state of being, recognised within and by itself ALONE as an absolute truth without doubt or error.

Everything else is imagination, in other words, imagination is an artificially constructed conceptual overlay upon what you already are, this absolute knowing consciousness, where the knower and the known are one and the same being in the exact same instantaneous conscious recognition of being, where the part, already knows it is the whole, since the whole is all of it's parts.

Therefore, consciousness is just another word for God... Or you... or being.


Every concept is known by the only knowing there is, which is consciousness.
Although consciousness itself as ONE absolute self, is irrefutably this unknown known. This is a necessary paradox that had to be, for being to be known. To know you are, also had to include the knowing you are not.

In other words, if you know the concept God, then you are the both the creator and the conceptually created concept in the exact same instantaneous moment they arise in consciousness itself.

Consciousness being the uncreated creator. The unknown knower.

The OP is correct.








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Age wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:27 am
Some people, in the days when this is being written, still write and claim that; " 'God' is a "he" ", which "others" can CLEARLY SEE is FAR MORE, so called, "goofy" than what was written above.

Not really, since God is everything. Including the known concept ''he''

All lables are just metaphysical metaphors for the same one, namely, everything and nothing.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:59 pm "If unicorn is the creation of man, then unicorn exists."

Would anybody write anything that goofy?
Walt Disney was a brilliant man

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:56 pm If God is a creation of Man then Man assumes the role of creator and thus is God; Man exists therefore God exists as God is made in the image of Man and Man is God as the creator of God. God is made in the image of God.
I agree with this analogy.

The correlation is a necessary tool used by consciousness itself imagining itself to be the real image of it's own unreal conceptual creation upon it's own screen. An image that can only exist as a construct of imagined mind, a projected mental image of what is essentially imageless. This imageless perception projects form, in the image of something that is not perceived as real and is not present to the senses, although perception itself, appears to be very real. It's a paradoxical illusion that belongs only to a God. You are God.

You cannot know God, you can only be God, to know You know, is the mother of all illusions. You are the knowing that cannot be known. There is in reality, only not-knowing knowing. Only God.

Most people are not yet ready to hear they are the only one who exists. Insofar as you can NEVER meet yourself in the form of another.



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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:46 am
Age wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:27 am
Some people, in the days when this is being written, still write and claim that; " 'God' is a "he" ", which "others" can CLEARLY SEE is FAR MORE, so called, "goofy" than what was written above.

Not really, since God is everything. Including the known concept ''he''
Fair point. When looking at God, in the physical sense, then it could be said that " 'God' is a "he" ", but this would also have to be on the proviso that 'God' is also a "she" and absolutely EVERY other physical thing. Which, as can be seen, would be rather foolish, and absurd, to do.

Also, what I was pointing out when I wrote the above is that when someone writes and claims that " 'God' is a "he" ", what that one actually means is that 'God' is a "he" ONLY. As "immanuel can" can, and if Honest would, PROVE True.
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:46 am All lables are just metaphysical metaphors for the same one, namely, everything and nothing.
I would, instead, say; ALL labels are just names, which are placed onto the 'things' that are separated, conceptually only, from thee One and ONLY REAL and True, inseparable, 'Thing'. But what we are saying here, refers to the EXACT SAME Thing.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:59 pm "If unicorn is the creation of man, then unicorn exists."

Would anybody write anything that goofy?
If man is the creation of man, then man exists.

Words are concepts known. That which is known, cannot know. Why?

Until you can answer that question IC .. Goofy will know more than you will ever know.
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'' The gods are mans creation, to give answers that they are to afraid to give themselves'' Ragnar lodbrok
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:24 pm '' The gods are mans creation, to give answers that they are to afraid to give themselves'' Ragnar lodbrok
That is doubtless true of "the gods." Quite a different concept from "God," though.

And I don't know how much wisdom one is going to find in quoting pop-culture Vikings...but "different strokes," as the say.
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A paranoid imagines that someone wants to kill him. Since he is paranoid, we would naturally not believe him. However, it may be true that someone really wants to kill him. The source of an idea does not invalidate an idea. This is called the genetic fallacy or genetic error. Likewise, even if man created God in his mind or only imagines that there is God, it does not mean that God does not exist.

Some people think that since religion is just a social construct, then its beliefs, including the existence of God, is not true. I think these people are committing the genetic fallacy.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:18 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:24 pm '' The gods are mans creation, to give answers that they are to afraid to give themselves'' Ragnar lodbrok
That is doubtless true of "the gods." Quite a different concept from "God," though.

And I don't know how much wisdom one is going to find in quoting pop-culture Vikings...but "different strokes," as the say.
Thanks IC, alias Jordan B Peterson. :lol:

God has many disguises. Wisdom can be found inside the ''Heinz Baked Bean Can'' hiding behind the can of tomato soup, on the top shelf of our pantry. :lol:

Was your response meant to sound intelligent? :lol: you could have fooled me there for a minute..oh wise prince of wisdom. 🤴

If there's only God, then he's only ever talking to himself. Also, some more wisdom for you, ''Gods'' can only come from God.

Do you not understand the wisdom of math? do the math, dualities are nondual. 🕵️‍♂️ How is that so? Ask God. :lol:

More nonsense to follow.. :shock:
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Why can't we all just be honest and admit that whatever comes out the breath of our being is a fictional made up story placed upon a mystery that can never be solved.


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