Absolutely.seeds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:55 pm
If you look carefully at the Flammarion image, you can easily see that the earth, and the moon, and the sun, and the stars (and, presumably, the rest of the planets), are all represented by what resides on the "inside" of the bubble of reality that the dude is sticking his head outside of.
Whereas, on the other hand, the random and freaky looking scene on the outside of the bubble, bears very little resemblance to what's on the inside of the bubble.
...however (and again), the sun, and the moon, and the stars (and the planets, though not pictured), along with Aristotle's "celestial spheres" that separate them, are already accounted for on the interior of the bubble depicted in the Flammarion engraving...
Therefore, whatever it is that the dude is seeing on the outside of the bubble, it seems to exist above and outside of what you (and Aristotle) are calling the "sublunary" and "superlunary" realms.
Again, this image is dealing with the concept of a system within a system, a shell within a shell. It is concerned with ENTROPY.
I suggest whoever did the original engraving is a sage.
You have the 'paradise' of reality - ALL that we perceive to be real. Indeed ALL that we CAN perceive to be real.
But notice, the artist has the mans head outside of the norm of reality - he has eaten the red pill (Neo) he has eaten from the Tree of Know_Ledge.
On that outer shell (system) which provides the resources - for at least consciousness - BEYOND where man's body remains - with all its material requirements...on that outer shell - is portrayed CLOUDS and a man made object - WATER MILL. (which clouds of water ultimately provide energy for man).
In other words - the energy that provides the 'perfect' reality of the inner shell is provided by an outer shell - where mankind ONCE dwelled.
By the way, he has his 'staff' and the hand_le is on the upper system.
...well, that's eating from the Tree of Know_Ledge gets ya.
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