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IQ questions of the past that are called culturally biased, never were. Bias requires intent. Those were simply bad questions because some people would not be able to understand them regardless of IQ, thereby reducing the effective correlation of tests in which they were included with other relevant measures. That was simple, early growing pains, not an indictment of the process or the results, and more recent tests have removed all questions that have any such unintentional confusions.
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Or perhaps 'culture' makes people stupid? Religion certainly does.
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So, do you want better intelligence measuring questions or maintain the parent choice factor as the one that should count?
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So, do you want better intelligence measuring questions or maintain the parent choice factor as the one that should count?
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I want people, like the therapist who recently mentioned IQ's cultural bias, to do the research themselves instead of believing what their culturally biased institutions tell them to.
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Advocate wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:23 am
Ansiktsburk wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:28 am So, do you want better intelligence measuring questions or maintain the parent choice factor as the one that should count?
I want people, like the therapist who recently mentioned IQ's cultural bias, to do the research themselves instead of believing what their culturally biased institutions tell them to.
What do you mean by a 'culturally biased institution'? What do you expect them to do? Ask questions about voodoo rituals?
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So, do you want better intelligence measuring questions or maintain the parent choice factor as the one that should count?
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I want people, like the therapist who recently mentioned IQ's cultural bias, to do the research themselves instead of believing what their culturally biased institutions tell them to.
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What do you mean by a 'culturally biased institution'? What do you expect them to do? Ask questions about voodoo rituals?
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The topic is IQ. Voodoo rituals have nothing to do with IQ.
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Advocate wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:46 am IQ questions of the past that are called culturally biased, never were. Bias requires intent.
You don't even understand what bias means in such circumstances? Intent is not necessary.

Bias means that people with similar background to the test-maker score higher on the test than people from dis-similar background to the test-maker.

Testing people (asking questions) requires the assumption of shared experiences/shared language. That shit works in a village, not in a global society.

e.g the question "How many pennies in a shilling?" is utterly unfair to anybody who doesn't give a fuck about the queen.
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Skepdick wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:56 am
Advocate wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:46 am IQ questions of the past that are called culturally biased, never were. Bias requires intent.
You don't even understand what bias means in such circumstances? Intent is not necessary.

Bias means that people with similar background to the test-maker score higher on the test than people from dis-similar background to the test-maker.

Testing people (asking questions) requires the assumption of shared experiences/shared language. That shit works in a village, not in a global society.

e.g the question "How many pennies in a shilling?" is utterly unfair to anybody who doesn't give a fuck about the queen.
You could still ask the same question in a different way, idiot, like 'how many bongowongos in a bazzongotonga'.
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And why do most of the greatest scientific minds seem to belong to people of Jewish ancestry? You don't need any IQ test to see that obvious fact.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:01 am And why do most of the greatest scientific minds seem to belong to people of Jewish ancestry? You don't need any IQ test to see that obvious fact.
You can't have it both ways woman!
veg wrote:Or perhaps 'culture' makes people stupid? Religion certainly does.
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attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:55 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:01 am And why do most of the greatest scientific minds seem to belong to people of Jewish ancestry? You don't need any IQ test to see that obvious fact.
You can't have it both ways woman!
veg wrote:Or perhaps 'culture' makes people stupid? Religion certainly does.
I suppose it depends on how you define 'culture'. I did say 'ancestry'. Scientists don't tend to be religious (like intelligent people in general).
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:11 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:55 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:01 am And why do most of the greatest scientific minds seem to belong to people of Jewish ancestry? You don't need any IQ test to see that obvious fact.
You can't have it both ways woman!
veg wrote:Or perhaps 'culture' makes people stupid? Religion certainly does.
I suppose it depends on how you define 'culture'. I did say 'ancestry'. Scientists don't tend to be religious (like intelligent people in general).
Normal people don't tend to declare faith.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:11 am
attofishpi wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:55 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:01 am And why do most of the greatest scientific minds seem to belong to people of Jewish ancestry? You don't need any IQ test to see that obvious fact.
You can't have it both ways woman!
veg wrote:Or perhaps 'culture' makes people stupid? Religion certainly does.
I suppose it depends on how you define 'culture'. I did say 'ancestry'. Scientists don't tend to be religious (like intelligent people in general).
A 2005 survey found that 48% of scientists had a religious affiliation and 75% thought that religions had important points.
Two scientists said they get satisfaction from viewing the world through a scientific lens and a personal faith.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:01 am And why do most of the greatest scientific minds seem to belong to people of Jewish ancestry? You don't need any IQ test to see that obvious fact.
Nicolaus Copernicus, Tycho Brahe, Johannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Johannes Kepler, William Harvey, Robert Boyle, Robert Hooke, Francesco Redi, Sir Isaac Newton, Christiaan Huygens, Leibniz, Antoine Lavoisier, Edward Jenner, Alessandro Volta, John Dalton, Georg Ohm, Amedeo Avogadro, Michael Faraday, Lord Kelvin, Louis Pasteur, James Clerk Maxwell, Gregor Mendel, Dmitri Mendeleev, William Crookes, J.J. Thomson, Marie Curie, Antoine Henri Becquerel, Max Planck, Ernest Rutherford, Erwin Schrödinger, Werner Heisenberg, Paul Dirac, Alexander Fleming, James Chadwick were Jewish? [None of them were of any Jewish ancestry.] The only big names in the history of science that were Jewish were Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, and Wolfgang Pauli.

I suspect your sources are probably published by those of Jewish ancestry. In the history of science there is no ethnic dominance. I'm surprised you've fallen for that particular variety of ethnic prejudice.
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