Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:14 am
K1Barin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:54 pm
Age wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:45 pm
But you also said and claimed that 'nobody' lives like 'that'. So, this means that there is no such thing as a "determinist". Which then means there is NOTHING to base what a determinist 'lives like', correct?
I mean a Determinist should live like that, but that is not possible, so determinism is not correct.
But you do live exactly like that.
What is missing is the notion that you, yourself are a determined causal agent.
For any given moment in time your decision is set by your motivation, and volition.
If time were reversed, with ALL condition the same, you would make the same choice.
This is obvious, but it does not prove the point you are 'trying to' make. Your example here is just rewinding a movie, which OBVIOUSLY could NOT be different.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:14 am
Otherwise every choice you would ever make would be random - is that what you mean by "free"? random?
Either way EVERY choice 'you' make is TOTALLY up to 'you'. There is a limited list of choices, which can be chosen from, and when you have grown and matured ENOUGH, then you are Truly FREE to choose from ANY one of those choices.
Unless, OF COURSE, you BELIEVE you can not, and then so you are NOT 'free' AT ALL. 'you' are just being controlled and led along from previous predetermined conditions.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:14 am
So each time you are confronted by a choice you make it to the best of your knowledge and needs. How could it be otherwise?
But only the very young human beings make choices based on 'needs'. 'you', adult human beings, mostly make choices based on completely unnecessary 'wants'.