The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

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Re: The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

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Just popping in to see what condition my uncondition is in.

Yep, it’s not looking in great shape.

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You cannot break the broken, you all deserve a break - have a kit- kat.

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:26 am
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN!!!!!........ does "Because 'they', future generations', COME to SEE, and UNDERSTAND, EXACTLY WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here." predict that persons as yet unborn (at least at the time you wrote it) will visit this site to review your words?
No.

Did you ASSUME it did?
Well, you see, you had already written this Ken...
Age wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:47 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:30 pm So....
CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN!!!!!........ how is "Because 'they', future generations', COME to SEE, and UNDERSTAND, EXACTLY WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here." not a prediction about what persons as yet unborn will be doing?
WHO, EVER, said it was NOT?
So you are not clarifying, nor attempting to clarify anything.
Your purpose is quite evidently not to get caught exactly meaning anything.
But this ASSUMPTION of YOURS here could not be ANY further from thee ACTUAL Truth.
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Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN!!!!!........ does "Because 'they', future generations', COME to SEE, and UNDERSTAND, EXACTLY WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here." predict that persons as yet unborn (at least at the time you wrote it) will visit this site to review your words?
No.

Did you ASSUME it did?
Well, you see, you had already written this Ken...
Age wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:47 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:30 pm So....
CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN!!!!!........ how is "Because 'they', future generations', COME to SEE, and UNDERSTAND, EXACTLY WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here." not a prediction about what persons as yet unborn will be doing?
WHO, EVER, said it was NOT?
Two contradictory negative answers to the same question Ken.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:38 am
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN!!!!!........ does "Because 'they', future generations', COME to SEE, and UNDERSTAND, EXACTLY WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here." predict that persons as yet unborn (at least at the time you wrote it) will visit this site to review your words?
No.

Did you ASSUME it did?
Well, you see, you had already written this Ken...
Age wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:47 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:30 pm So....
CLARIFYING QUESTION KEN!!!!!........ how is "Because 'they', future generations', COME to SEE, and UNDERSTAND, EXACTLY WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here." not a prediction about what persons as yet unborn will be doing?
WHO, EVER, said it was NOT?
Two contradictory negative answers to the same question Ken.
You STILL MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND, although it is CLEARLY WRITTEN. And this applies for BOTH threads.
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Re: The character posing as AGE makes a claim … but is it FACT?

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Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:55 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:38 am
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am

No.

Did you ASSUME it did?
Well, you see, you had already written this Ken...
Age wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:47 am

WHO, EVER, said it was NOT?
Two contradictory negative answers to the same question Ken.
You STILL MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND, although it is CLEARLY WRITTEN. And this applies for BOTH threads.
Just tell us what you meant then.
Instead of this negative false-clarification trick you have of just telling us we are wrong about everything, tell us what is right.
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Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:12 am
Atla wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:37 pm
Age wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:23 am

Okay, if you say so.
Another comment supporting us.
Who and/or what is 'us' here, EXACTLY?
That should be obvious too.
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Atla wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:05 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:12 am
Atla wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:37 pm
Another comment supporting us.
Who and/or what is 'us' here, EXACTLY?
That should be obvious too.
What is the 'too' here in relation to, EXACTLY?
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:09 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:55 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:38 am

Well, you see, you had already written this Ken...


Two contradictory negative answers to the same question Ken.
You STILL MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND, although it is CLEARLY WRITTEN. And this applies for BOTH threads.
Just tell us what you meant then.
In relation to what, EXACTLY?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:09 pm Instead of this negative false-clarification trick you have of just telling us we are wrong about everything, tell us what is right.
In relation to what, EXACTLY?
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Age wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:49 am
Atla wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:05 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:12 am

Who and/or what is 'us' here, EXACTLY?
That should be obvious too.
What is the 'too' here in relation to, EXACTLY?
The too, or two is in relation to smashing your head against a brick wall and knowing the outcome in the instantaneous moment via the reaction.
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Age wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:52 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:09 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:55 am

You STILL MISS and/or MISUNDERSTAND, although it is CLEARLY WRITTEN. And this applies for BOTH threads.
Just tell us what you meant then.
In relation to what, EXACTLY?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:09 pm Instead of this negative false-clarification trick you have of just telling us we are wrong about everything, tell us what is right.
In relation to what, EXACTLY?
"future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here"
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:52 pm
Age wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:52 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:09 pm
Just tell us what you meant then.
In relation to what, EXACTLY?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:09 pm Instead of this negative false-clarification trick you have of just telling us we are wrong about everything, tell us what is right.
In relation to what, EXACTLY?
"future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here"
What I meant was, and still is:

'future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here.'

AND, that is right, too, by the way.
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Age wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:35 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:52 pm
Age wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:52 am

In relation to what, EXACTLY?


In relation to what, EXACTLY?
"future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here"
What I meant was, and still is:

'future generations who WILL see and understand exactly WHAT I have been doing throughout this period here.'

AND, that is right, too, by the way.
So for clarifying purposes.... what EXACTLY does FUTURE GENERATIONS mean To "You" Ken?
And for further clarity .... WHEN are 'YOU' "Ken" expecting these FUTURE GENERATIONS to UNDERSTAND EXACTLY what you are tellng us?
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Ken is not saying future generations will see and understand exactly what he has been doing here since how would he know this
But what he is saying however is that those who are open minded enough will see and understand what he has been doing here
So his statement is a conditional one not an absolute one - he is not making any predictions at all
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Spot the difference :

Future generations will see and understand exactly what I have been doing here

Future generations who will see and understand exactly what I have been doing here
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surreptitious57 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:03 pm Ken is not saying future generations will see and understand exactly what he has been doing here since how would he know this
But what he is saying however is that those who are open minded enough will see and understand what he has been doing here
So his statement is a conditional one not an absolute one - he is not making any predictions at all
I can see that you are trying to help. But Age has also said on many occasions that he doesn't believe anything - and he likes to put a space between the 'any' and 'thing' to really make the point. So you are laying an uncertainty trap for him there. Seeing as I raised this issue of his uncertain claims to future information because it seems like something he believes rather than knows, I don't think you are providing quite the assistance you hoped to.
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