I don't know if you don't understand what I'm asking you?SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:59 pmThe Conscious Visual Experience that is embedded in the front of your face is the thing you look at to get information about the External World. The External World actually doesn't Look like anything. What does it really mean to See something? Your conception of Seeing is completely formed by how your Visual System operates and not by any kind of real Seeing of External things. You never actually See the External World but rather you are always just seeing this screen. The screen portrays the External World for you in order to enable you to move around in that World. It is a pretty good portrayal for that purpose.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:53 pmHow? You're positing that we can't actually observe externals. So how do you learn "enough about them"? How does the process start? Describe how it supposedly works in some detail under the premise that we can't actually observe what externals are like.SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:31 pm You're ignoring my answer. I will interpret for you. Although we will never know what anything is actually like, but we can learn enough about things
This is why you're ignoring the question.
If you can't see the external world, then how do you see how anyone's visual system operates? (That is, how are you seeing eyes, retinas, how are you studying how they work, etc.?)
And if you can't see the external world, then how could you know that it "actually doesn't look like anything"? You'd need to see what it's like in order to check that. Otherwise it would have to be a complete guess.
And if you can't see or otherwise experience an external world, then how are you even positing one? It would again be a complete guess.