Mind is free therefore it is immortal

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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bahman wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:06 pm
Age wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:00 pm
bahman wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:46 pm
I am here to make my logic simple.
LOL Well you are NOT doing a very good job of that.

If you want to make your, so called, "logic" SIMPLE, then EXPLAIN YOUR CONTRADICTION when you state and CLAIM:

"we ARE minds" with "we HAVE minds"?

I have ALREADY EXPLAINED and SHOWN that it is a logical IMPOSSIBILITY to be the 'thing' that you have.
I do what I can.
And what you can NOT do is explain away YOUR OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION here.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:02 am
bahman wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:06 pm
Age wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:00 pm

LOL Well you are NOT doing a very good job of that.

If you want to make your, so called, "logic" SIMPLE, then EXPLAIN YOUR CONTRADICTION when you state and CLAIM:

"we ARE minds" with "we HAVE minds"?

I have ALREADY EXPLAINED and SHOWN that it is a logical IMPOSSIBILITY to be the 'thing' that you have.
I do what I can.
And what you can NOT do is explain away YOUR OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION here.
What is my contradiction?
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bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:06 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:02 am
bahman wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:06 pm
I do what I can.
And what you can NOT do is explain away YOUR OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION here.
What is my contradiction?
Do you always read past the first or second sentence in a reply?
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Saying and stating;

"we ARE minds" while also saying and stating; "we HAVE minds" is a PURE and ABSOLUTE 'contradiction', OBVIOUSLY.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:09 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:06 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:02 am

And what you can NOT do is explain away YOUR OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION here.
What is my contradiction?
Do you always read past the first or second sentence in a reply?
What do you mean?
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:10 am Saying and stating;

"we ARE minds" while also saying and stating; "we HAVE minds" is a PURE and ABSOLUTE 'contradiction', OBVIOUSLY.
And I explained several times that there is nothing wrong with what I said. It totally depends on what I mean with "we". Do you remember my explanation?
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bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:12 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:09 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:06 am
What is my contradiction?
Do you always read past the first or second sentence in a reply?
What do you mean?
I mean when someone replies to you, here in this forum, do you always read EVERY thing they write?
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bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:13 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:10 am Saying and stating;

"we ARE minds" while also saying and stating; "we HAVE minds" is a PURE and ABSOLUTE 'contradiction', OBVIOUSLY.
And I explained several times that there is nothing wrong with what I said. It totally depends on what I mean with "we". Do you remember my explanation?
No.

Will you repeat your, so called, "explanation"?

And, how do 'I' KNOW what 'you' mean by 'we' if you mean different things at different times?
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:15 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:12 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:09 am

Do you always read past the first or second sentence in a reply?
What do you mean?
I mean when someone replies to you, here in this forum, do you always read EVERY thing they write?
Sure I read.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:16 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:13 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:10 am Saying and stating;

"we ARE minds" while also saying and stating; "we HAVE minds" is a PURE and ABSOLUTE 'contradiction', OBVIOUSLY.
And I explained several times that there is nothing wrong with what I said. It totally depends on what I mean with "we". Do you remember my explanation?
No.

Will you repeat your, so called, "explanation"?

And, how do 'I' KNOW what 'you' mean by 'we' if you mean different things at different times?
"We" in "we have minds" refers to human beings. "We" in "we are minds" obviously refers to collection of minds.
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bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:20 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:15 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:12 am
What do you mean?
I mean when someone replies to you, here in this forum, do you always read EVERY thing they write?
Sure I read.
So, just to make this absolutely CLEAR, do you read absolutely EVERY sentence whenever you read a reply, which has been made to you, here in this forum?

A 'yes' or a 'no' response is all that is needed to make this absolutely CLEAR. A response like; "Sure I read" does NOT clarify NOR make ANY thing CLEAR here in regards to the actual clarifying question that I am asking you. Is this understood by you?
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bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:22 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:16 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:13 am
And I explained several times that there is nothing wrong with what I said. It totally depends on what I mean with "we". Do you remember my explanation?
No.

Will you repeat your, so called, "explanation"?

And, how do 'I' KNOW what 'you' mean by 'we' if you mean different things at different times?
"We" in "we have minds" refers to human beings. "We" in "we are minds" obviously refers to collection of minds.
LOL

You STILL have MISSED, MISUNDERSTOOD, and MISINTERPRETED what I have been saying and asking you.

I will try ONCE AGAIN.

Saying, "we ARE minds" means 'we ARE minds'.

Whereas, saying, "we HAVE minds" means 'we ARE NOT minds' because 'we' ARE some 'thing' else that HAS 'minds'.

Do you comprehend and understand this now?

LOOK, I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY WHY 'you' are SO BLIND, LOST and CONFUSED here. This is because I UNDERSTAND FULLY how the Mind and the brain work. But I do NOT YET KNOW how to EXPLAIN this to 'you', human beings.

I am still just in the process of learning how to communicate better with 'you', human beings.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:28 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:22 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:16 am

No.

Will you repeat your, so called, "explanation"?

And, how do 'I' KNOW what 'you' mean by 'we' if you mean different things at different times?
"We" in "we have minds" refers to human beings. "We" in "we are minds" obviously refers to collection of minds.
LOL

You STILL have MISSED, MISUNDERSTOOD, and MISINTERPRETED what I have been saying and asking you.

I will try ONCE AGAIN.

Saying, "we ARE minds" means 'we ARE minds'.

Whereas, saying, "we HAVE minds" means 'we ARE NOT minds' because 'we' ARE some 'thing' else that HAS 'minds'.

Do you comprehend and understand this now?
I see. But I think I cleared that a long time ago.
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bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:30 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:28 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:22 am
"We" in "we have minds" refers to human beings. "We" in "we are minds" obviously refers to collection of minds.
LOL

You STILL have MISSED, MISUNDERSTOOD, and MISINTERPRETED what I have been saying and asking you.

I will try ONCE AGAIN.

Saying, "we ARE minds" means 'we ARE minds'.

Whereas, saying, "we HAVE minds" means 'we ARE NOT minds' because 'we' ARE some 'thing' else that HAS 'minds'.

Do you comprehend and understand this now?
I see. But I think I cleared that a long time ago.
But I asked you to CLEAR THIS UP. You said you ALREADY HAVE and PROVIDED EXAMPLES. I have now INFORMED you that you are STILL BLIND and CONFUSED. So, 'trying to' say "that you think you cleared this up a long time ago", is just ANOTHER DIVERSIONARY TACTIC of yours.

You OBVIOUSLY have NOT YET CLEARED this up. This is because you still have NOT YET SEEN the CONTRADICTION, ITSELF.
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Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:53 am
bahman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:30 am
Age wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:28 am

LOL

You STILL have MISSED, MISUNDERSTOOD, and MISINTERPRETED what I have been saying and asking you.

I will try ONCE AGAIN.

Saying, "we ARE minds" means 'we ARE minds'.

Whereas, saying, "we HAVE minds" means 'we ARE NOT minds' because 'we' ARE some 'thing' else that HAS 'minds'.

Do you comprehend and understand this now?
I see. But I think I cleared that a long time ago.
But I asked you to CLEAR THIS UP. You said you ALREADY HAVE and PROVIDED EXAMPLES. I have now INFORMED you that you are STILL BLIND and CONFUSED. So, 'trying to' say "that you think you cleared this up a long time ago", is just ANOTHER DIVERSIONARY TACTIC of yours.

You OBVIOUSLY have NOT YET CLEARED this up. This is because you still have NOT YET SEEN the CONTRADICTION, ITSELF.
What other contradiction you are talking about?
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