the easy problem of consciousness

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Dimebag
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Re: clean it up, bud

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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:04 pm
henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:56 pm P.S. -- I've pointed this out to you before, but I think you should do like everybody else does, and use the button with the " sign on it above to quote a message.

Is that subtle enough?


or, he could do as I've done in this here post
That'll do. But why not use the button?
Philosophical zombie maybe, all he sees is code.
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Immanuel Can
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Re: clean it up, bud

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Dimebag wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:08 pm Philosophical zombie maybe, all he sees is code.
He's in the Matrix.
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Re: clean it up, bud

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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:26 pm
Dimebag wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:08 pm Philosophical zombie maybe, all he sees is code.
He's in the Matrix.
The interesting thing about the original movie is that the Matrix is sentient. In other words, even though it is a machine it has the ability to experience.
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Re: the easy problem of consciousness

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Advocate wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:27 pm Asking how the brain is capable of creating the experience of consciousness is not materially different from asking how the tongue produces saltiness. The pattern of nerve firings IS the thing that's being referenced, not a separate entity made of separate stuff.
Actually, it is different. The easy problem of consciousness cannot explain why we have experience. The easy problem explains the philosophical zombie but that's about all.
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Re: clean it up, bud

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Ginkgo wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:35 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:26 pm
Dimebag wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:08 pm Philosophical zombie maybe, all he sees is code.
He's in the Matrix.
The interesting thing about the original movie is that the Matrix is sentient. In other words, even though it is a machine it has the ability to experience.
It's a movie, of course. Just a movie.
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