henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:43 pm
and another one who thinks he knows how other folks' heads work
Always be yourself, the real fictional character!
henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:43 pm
and another one who thinks he knows how other folks' heads work
nopeDontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:03 pmMore projection.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:57 pm
me: I'm just telln' you and all the others like you -- again -- mebbe your head(s) work like that but mine doesn't
Don't tell others that their heads don't work like yours, it's preaching.
don't need any...thanks anywayDontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:19 pmYeah, I agree, it really is a nighmare trying to make headways...mebbe don't bother even trying might help you.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:57 pm
I have no clue how your head works and I never said I did (goin' by your descriptions, though, it seems to be a nightmare)
I've already agreed with Henry's explanatory conception of the workings that is his own head understanding on another thread. so I'm confused as to why he gets all offended when he pops into my thread of ideas, moaning that others are preaching to him. Even though he's already explained to me how he sees things, which I've already given a thumbs up to. But that wasn't enough apparently, oh well, the mind does feel threatened when memory starts to fade I suppose.
Then you needent be popping your nose in on my business then, since you've got it all figured anyway.
If everything is an Illusion then who or what is having the Illusion. A concept of Illusion is nothing until a Conscious Mind has it. Also if my Conscious Mind is having the Illusion and everything is Illusion then Dimebag et. al. are just Illusions and don't really exist. I am everything. Maybe I am God!Dimebag wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:00 am In a sense Henry you are correct, that which you believe you conceive.
You mind makes it real.
Your experience of reality IS your reality.
So for you, you experience being a locus of experience, a point of view, an agent of causation.
That can ALL exist WITHIN the illusion. Just as in a story, the characters are never aware they are IN the story, in the same sense, within the story that is your life and experience, you are not and never could be aware of being in a story or dream.
When you are in a dream, you don’t know you are in the dream. When you realise you are in a dream, it loses its impact or grip on you and your reactions.
In the matrix, when neo begins in the matrix, he doesn’t question who he is, nor the reality of the world. He thinks he is Thomas Anderson and has been toiling all his life. When he is woken up, he realises that whole life in the matrix was like a dream, including who he thought he was.
It’s a bit like this. And once you realise you have been living in a dream world, to go back in, no matter how good the illusion may seem, is still known to be illusion.
I called dibs!SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:00 pmIf everything is an Illusion then who or what is having the Illusion. A concept of Illusion is nothing until a Conscious Mind has it. Also if my Conscious Mind is having the Illusion and everything is Illusion then Dimebag et. al. are just Illusions and don't really exist. I am everything. Maybe I am God!Dimebag wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:00 am In a sense Henry you are correct, that which you believe you conceive.
You mind makes it real.
Your experience of reality IS your reality.
So for you, you experience being a locus of experience, a point of view, an agent of causation.
That can ALL exist WITHIN the illusion. Just as in a story, the characters are never aware they are IN the story, in the same sense, within the story that is your life and experience, you are not and never could be aware of being in a story or dream.
When you are in a dream, you don’t know you are in the dream. When you realise you are in a dream, it loses its impact or grip on you and your reactions.
In the matrix, when neo begins in the matrix, he doesn’t question who he is, nor the reality of the world. He thinks he is Thomas Anderson and has been toiling all his life. When he is woken up, he realises that whole life in the matrix was like a dream, including who he thought he was.
It’s a bit like this. And once you realise you have been living in a dream world, to go back in, no matter how good the illusion may seem, is still known to be illusion.
ok, you can have the God thing. Too much responsibility for me.henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:12 pmI called dibs!SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:00 pmIf everything is an Illusion then who or what is having the Illusion. A concept of Illusion is nothing until a Conscious Mind has it. Also if my Conscious Mind is having the Illusion and everything is Illusion then Dimebag et. al. are just Illusions and don't really exist. I am everything. Maybe I am God!Dimebag wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:00 am In a sense Henry you are correct, that which you believe you conceive.
You mind makes it real.
Your experience of reality IS your reality.
So for you, you experience being a locus of experience, a point of view, an agent of causation.
That can ALL exist WITHIN the illusion. Just as in a story, the characters are never aware they are IN the story, in the same sense, within the story that is your life and experience, you are not and never could be aware of being in a story or dream.
When you are in a dream, you don’t know you are in the dream. When you realise you are in a dream, it loses its impact or grip on you and your reactions.
In the matrix, when neo begins in the matrix, he doesn’t question who he is, nor the reality of the world. He thinks he is Thomas Anderson and has been toiling all his life. When he is woken up, he realises that whole life in the matrix was like a dream, including who he thought he was.
It’s a bit like this. And once you realise you have been living in a dream world, to go back in, no matter how good the illusion may seem, is still known to be illusion.
You started to get it, but then the old ego kicked in again.SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:00 pmIf everything is an Illusion then who or what is having the Illusion. A concept of Illusion is nothing until a Conscious Mind has it. Also if my Conscious Mind is having the Illusion and everything is Illusion then Dimebag et. al. are just Illusions and don't really exist. I am everything. Maybe I am God!Dimebag wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:00 am In a sense Henry you are correct, that which you believe you conceive.
You mind makes it real.
Your experience of reality IS your reality.
So for you, you experience being a locus of experience, a point of view, an agent of causation.
That can ALL exist WITHIN the illusion. Just as in a story, the characters are never aware they are IN the story, in the same sense, within the story that is your life and experience, you are not and never could be aware of being in a story or dream.
When you are in a dream, you don’t know you are in the dream. When you realise you are in a dream, it loses its impact or grip on you and your reactions.
In the matrix, when neo begins in the matrix, he doesn’t question who he is, nor the reality of the world. He thinks he is Thomas Anderson and has been toiling all his life. When he is woken up, he realises that whole life in the matrix was like a dream, including who he thought he was.
It’s a bit like this. And once you realise you have been living in a dream world, to go back in, no matter how good the illusion may seem, is still known to be illusion.
hot damn! hold on to your ass, cuz it's fire & brimstone time!SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:45 pmok, you can have the God thing. Too much responsibility for me.henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:12 pmI called dibs!SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:00 pm
If everything is an Illusion then who or what is having the Illusion. A concept of Illusion is nothing until a Conscious Mind has it. Also if my Conscious Mind is having the Illusion and everything is Illusion then Dimebag et. al. are just Illusions and don't really exist. I am everything. Maybe I am God!
Hahhhhhhh!henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:56 pmhot damn! hold on to your ass, cuz it's fire & brimstone time!SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:45 pmok, you can have the God thing. Too much responsibility for me.
It is an open thread, it's open for business. But since I am the author of this thread, it is my business to direct it the way I think it should go.
hey, I'm out...go bug someone else, you self-described illusionDontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:05 pm Then you needent be popping your nose in on my business
It is an open thread, it's open for business. But since I am the author of this thread, it is my business to direct it the way I think it should go.
If you want to discuss the fact that the ( observer cannot be observed )then you are more than welcome to do so.
But if you, like you've already mentioned to me, that you already ''know yourself'' the way you personally see it, then I just question the reason or motive for your appearance here on my thread, especially if you are just going to state that you believe something else contrary to the OP
Also, to believe something else is you're prerogative, just as it is my prerogative to tell you what I believe, so to then just call out my ideas as being ''preachy'' and then make loose accusations that I am a ''wrong headed'' person, then excuse me for calling you out. I think your a wrong headed person too, so hows that.
When I'm using the words ( I or You) I'm referring to the (Verb Consciousness) that is the same phenomena in every living sentient being. I'm not referring to a guy named Henry who seems to take everything I say personally. This is a Nondual thread, the I and the You are the same ONE in my belief ok?
So please make up your mind as to what you are doing on this thread...then perhaps we can move forward.
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