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Re: We have been here before
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:31 pm
by Age
commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:55 pm
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:22 pm
No one is going to believe something unless they actually think it is true . But the need to believe for some is stronger than the
need of any evidence for their belief anyway . Belief and evidence actually exist on the same spectrum albeit at opposite ends
The spectrum analogy is bang on. And, of course, the believer is certain that his belief is true.
Even so, I am still perplexed that a believer believes that belief is sufficient evidence of the truth of anything.
That is just the power of BELIEF, itself.
Belief is so overpowering that believing something is true does not have make sense, be reason-abled, nor even be logical in anyway shape nor form. The belief-system, literally, just overrides ANY reason at all.
Re: We have been here before
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:15 pm
by commonsense
Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:31 pm
commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:55 pm
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:22 pm
No one is going to believe something unless they actually think it is true . But the need to believe for some is stronger than the
need of any evidence for their belief anyway . Belief and evidence actually exist on the same spectrum albeit at opposite ends
The spectrum analogy is bang on. And, of course, the believer is certain that his belief is true.
Even so, I am still perplexed that a believer believes that belief is sufficient evidence of the truth of anything.
That is just the power of BELIEF, itself.
Belief is so overpowering that believing something is true does not have make sense, be reason-abled, nor even be logical in anyway shape nor form. The belief-system, literally, just overrides ANY reason at all.
Is there no way to awaken a believer?
Re: We have been here before
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:50 am
by Age
commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:15 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:31 pm
commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:55 pm
The spectrum analogy is bang on. And, of course, the believer is certain that his belief is true.
Even so, I am still perplexed that a believer believes that belief is sufficient evidence of the truth of anything.
That is just the power of BELIEF, itself.
Belief is so overpowering that believing something is true does not have make sense, be reason-abled, nor even be logical in anyway shape nor form. The belief-system, literally, just overrides ANY reason at all.
Is there no way to awaken a believer?
Not that I have found nor come across yet, unfortunately.
If, and when, one is found, a Truly Peaceful way of life, for everyone, will come to fruition extremely quickly.
Re: We have been here before
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:51 pm
by commonsense
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:50 am
commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:15 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:31 pm
That is just the power of BELIEF, itself.
Belief is so overpowering that believing something is true does not have make sense, be reason-abled, nor even be logical in anyway shape nor form. The belief-system, literally, just overrides ANY reason at all.
Is there no way to awaken a believer?
Not that I have found nor come across yet, unfortunately.
If, and when, one is found, a Truly Peaceful way of life, for everyone, will come to fruition extremely quickly.
Agree.