SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:21 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:03 am
The Self that is Ramu is the same Self that is Steve.
If this is true then, if I stub my toe Ramu should curse as loudly as I would.
The Self which is just another word for Awareness
And Awareness is who you are, so when the SELF the awareness from the unique perspective as and through the mind body character that is Ramu HERE....a stub of the toe would be experienced and felt here, and while this sensation is felt and known as experienced here, there is no other thing happening or known or being experienced anywhere else, for awareness is only ever here which is the only source of all sensation known and experienced.
Sensation is not known or felt by the mind, body character Ramu, the body mind character is just the instrument
Awareness uses as and through that instrument as there is no other instrument.
So it is awareness aware of the sensation that knows and feels and experiences sensation as and through that instrument the mind body mechanism...the instrument on the other hand feels and knows nothing of it’s existence because it’s just a made up concept of awareness.
From the perspective of the mind body mechanism that is awareness here there is no awareness of any other awareness external to awareness here, there is simply nothing outside or separate from here. For awareness ..there is only here ...and here is everywhere because awareness that is everywhere cannot move...it is only the mind that moves which is already within the awareness here aka the unmoved mover.
When latent awareness knows sensation consciousness mind is born. Only the mind is born, awareness is the unborn born as and through the knowledge mechanism the instrument of knowing.
The reason there is the belief in another awareness separate from here is only apparent because there is the knowing and experiencing of all sensation here. Here is everywhere and nowhere now here.
There is nothing outside of awareness because there is nothing inside of awareness except as an inner mental projection appearing to be external to the inner...which is only ever known and experienced here the only source of knowledge sensation and experience.
Sorry if this all sounds complicated, but it’s hard to put this into words, but I can only keep trying my best.