Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

Post by SteveKlinko » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:00 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:44 pm
SteveKlinko wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:44 pm
One is the loneliest Philosophy that there ever was ...
Yep, one is the loneliest number, from one all else comes, many of the one, lonely, but not. The mind is an empty mirror ball.
If there is only one Conscious Self then I must be it. You must be just part of my Hallucination. I know I am not a Hallucination.

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Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

Post by Dontaskme » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:12 am

SteveKlinko wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:00 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:44 pm
SteveKlinko wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:44 pm
One is the loneliest Philosophy that there ever was ...
Yep, one is the loneliest number, from one all else comes, many of the one, lonely, but not. The mind is an empty mirror ball.
If there is only one Conscious Self then I must be it. You must be just part of my Hallucination. I know I am not a Hallucination.
Very good that is exactly how I would say it as well.

On further inspection, going deeper, it is seen that you cannot know Consciousness you can only be Consciousness, there is no other Consciousness being Consciousness. Consciousness is the observer observing itself as and through it's observation observed, there is no division.

You can know you are not the conscious observer, but you cannot know you are the conscious observer. Therefore, in knowing you are not is the entrance into you are...because you already have to be to know you are not.

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Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

Post by SteveKlinko » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:26 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:12 am
SteveKlinko wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:00 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:44 pm


Yep, one is the loneliest number, from one all else comes, many of the one, lonely, but not. The mind is an empty mirror ball.
If there is only one Conscious Self then I must be it. You must be just part of my Hallucination. I know I am not a Hallucination.
Very good that is exactly how I would say it as well.

On further inspection, going deeper, it is seen that you cannot know Consciousness you can only be Consciousness, there is no other Consciousness being Consciousness. Consciousness is the observer observing itself as and through it's observation observed, there is no division.

You can know you are not the conscious observer, but you cannot know you are the conscious observer. Therefore, in knowing you are not is the entrance into you are...because you already have to be to know you are not.
I think since I Am Consciousness that I necessarily can Know Consciousness.

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Re: Consciousness IS - but it's NOT a ''Conscious Experience''

Post by Dontaskme » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:23 pm

SteveKlinko wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:26 pm
I think since I Am Consciousness
That statement is KNOWN. It is not known what or who or why or how there is knowing... but the mind will fill in the gaps with any thing, with what-ever it imagines .. known to it only. The mind knows itself.

Concepts in and of themselves know no thing...concepts are KNOWN by no thing (mind) imagining itself to be a thing.
SteveKlinko wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:26 pm
that I necessarily can Know Consciousness.
Only as a concept KNOWN... A conceptual thing known knows no thing. Consciousness is the no thing that knows itself.

You (consciousness) are the ''Knowing'' that cannot be known. . Consciousness is an empty principle.

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