Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:09 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:35 am
Yes, dualism is a fact. Reality is nought but one idea appearing as mulitple ideas...including the concept (dualism)
Where on earth do you think ideas come from at all? ...
Where do you think the concept of an idea came from?
What about the concept of a concept?
An idea is a concept known..it is the conception of a thing that was previously unknown, unconceived.
How is the concept ''conception'' conceived? in other words how is the unborn born?
You say:
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:09 amThe place where those things come from... go and understand how it works.
I don't know how it works. I only know it does work.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:35 am
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:09 amYou have no knowledge of any fact or of yourself or what you are or what you look like without using a mirror to reflect it back to you.
Then you have not heard of introspection. No mirror can help you with that.
Introspection the act of looking within oneself.
How does that work ?
When looking in I cannot see the seer...I see no thing...I can only see the seen ( a thing)..aka the external 'thing' of the internal 'no thing'
Notice here, the unseen seer is inseparable from what is it looking at the seen. There is no division there. Division is simply a mental idea...imposed upon the unknown unseen - it's an artificially imposed impression a conceptual image upon the imageless.
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:09 amOn the quest of understanding reality, perhaps you should first understand the very instrument through which you perceive reality?
The concept ''instrument'' is a perception. A perception is the perceived in the same instant, that which is percieved cannot perceive anything.
You are attempting to get a peek up your own ass, like trying to jump over your own shadow it's a pointless exercise. There really is nothing to see or to understand about reality, and that is all that can be understood about it...the rest is just imagination.
The conceptually conceived instrument of knowing, that which is known - cannot be known by the instrument aka the conception of itself...because there is no such thing as giving birth to your own unborn self...except using the mirror trick...the imagined self, the image in the imageless mirror...appearing as two, but really ONE inseparable (no)thing appearing as some thing.
The mirror has no image of itself, it has to be empty in order to reflect ....the mirror is just another terminology used to replace the concept of consciousness (aware you are aware) already couched within awareness itself....as I've already explained to you millions of times to you already which you don't seem to want to accept...but there is nothing I can do about that...
The fact is...No conception of a knower ever took place. Because 'knower knowing and known' are ONE...in the same instant...the knower is a fictional character, in that only that which is fiction can give birth to non-fiction...and there is no such idea as a non-fiction...fiction is fiction, you cannot not have a non fiction fiction...non-fiction is fiction...So no thing is Real.
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