There is the problem. When you use the suffix ‘-ness’ this declares something as a quality of something else.SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:27 amYou are talking about the different qualities of Redness. Each quality hue, tone, Brilliant or Dull is just another Color. The question remains: regardless of the hue, tone or brilliance: How do you See (Experience) that Color. Do you not recognize that The Redness is a thing in itself? Do you believe that Redness does not even exist?I Like Sushu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:55 pm Steve -
What us your point? Sure, we don’t need eyes to ‘see’ as we can also ‘see’ with our hands, ears etc.,. Why should I concern myself with “redness”?
From the phenomenological perspective I would say I experience “redness” due to the hue, tone, brilliance etc., of said “redness”. I cannot imagine a “redness” absent of tone or brilliance. So I’ve just ‘shown’ you what happens when I focus on redness.
Is there anything else you’d like to add or a question you’d like to pose?
If all you’re really asking is “what is experience?” I don’t really know! If you have an inkling spill the beans. The best I could offer would be some reference to what we know of brain function, but that doesn’t - at the core of human life - ‘explain’ what experience is. So I would venture the question is either currently redundant, due to how it is being framed or, and this is my bet, we simply haven’t formed useful enough concepts to deal with questions regarding consciousness and what consciousness means.