Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Post by AlexW » Sat May 04, 2019 12:09 am

Dontaskme wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 12:07 pm
That stateless state has to be the ''Nothingness'' that is ''Absolute Knowing''...in that life is living itself and functioning automatically without knowing or being self aware that it is functioning at all.
Agree - still, I wouldn't call it nothingness... but anyway, doesn't matter...
Dontaskme wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 12:07 pm
But it is Nothingness and yet how can nothingness be an experience, how can nothingness be known?
Well, it seems to know itself via being itself - its all a big mystery...
Dontaskme wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 12:07 pm
Consciousness is the dream.

Reality is the dream, there is nothing MORE outside of that arena.
Sure, we can call reality a dream and vice versa, and ultimately its all the same, but I find it "important" to see that there are layers in this dream/reality.
The most important layer is the one which seems to create duality out of the non-dual dream/reality. Its conceptual thought that creates an alternate dream/reality within the dream/realty. Reality/dream is as it is, unknowable by thought, undefinable etc... but thought still insists on creating a limited universe including all these things and characters (based on what we believe we observe)... Its interesting to see and understand that this seems to happen and that the underlying reality is unaffected, perfectly undivided and whole.

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Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

Post by PeteJ » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:32 pm

onglob wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:27 pm
Humans harmful behaviors against their environment and against other humans and species is as archaic as
the advent of modern humans.

As humans settled and human societies emerged, conflicts and damages due to those harmful behaviors
impaired the whole society. so humans devised god or gods and religions to justify moralities to avoid
those harmful behaviors.
But as the history tells us the problem didn't solve, if not deepened and became more complicated as
religious wars, theocracies and religious dogmatism proved to be even more harmful.
It's probably been said earlier but...

You seem to be ignoring out most of philosophy and religion. The Perennial philosophy explains how to get rid of the ego and promotes the benefits of doing so. Human beings are perfectly capable of geting rid of their egos. It is the entire secret of finding true happiness.

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