Logik wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:51 pm
Ramu wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:49 pm
It's just funny that everyone reverts back to a metaphysical brain that according to some concept is somehow responsible for creating consciousness..and everything else. Where IS this brain occurring? If everything I'm perceiving is being perceived in a brain then where is this brain?
It is very fucking tricky to see your own brain. For medical AND practical reasons.
But it is VERY easy to see other people's brains!
A brain can be seen, but consciousness cannot be seen.
So to be able to see a brain, there has to be a seer present to see that brain and that seeing is consciousness. Consciousness has to be first.
You can't say the brain creates the seer, because the brain would then be the seer that you already are prior to seeing it, so the seer cannot be in the brain, because the last time I looked at a brain I could not see my consciousness in that brain, or any other persons brain, I could only see the brain. You have to get out of your brain to see that you don't need a brain to know you are conscious...you are first and foremost consciousness before you ever clapped eyes on a brain.
So the seen brain must be appearing, emerging within the consciousness seer, and not the other way around, where the seer consciousness is an appearance, emergence within the seen brain. ..because that which is seen cannot see...anything seen is the looked upon...not the thing that is looking...do you see that?
So even if you are looking at your own brain on a MRI machine, you are still only looking at an image of your brain, you still cannot see consciousness is a by-product, emergence of that brain...so your consciousness is never in the image seen, the image seen is always occuring in your consciousness. A consciousness that has no image of itself, because all images are illusions of the same light occuring within itself appearing to itself...so then what the mind does..is it takes on the shape of the images and says I am those images because it's got no image of itself....it gets lost in the dream and thinks the image is who and what it is.. when it's much much more than that...because there is nothing in an image, just as there is nothing in a painting or a movie.
Do you see the dilemma here?
Consciousness has never been born, so it cannot die..it is uncreated so cannot disappear upon death ...no one has consciousness, there is only consciousness. You are that. You are infinite formless consciousness.
Birth and death are concepts within the illusory dream of separation, known only by consciousness. The truth is you have never been born, so you cannot die.