Re: The thoughts of Nisargadatta Maharaj
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:14 am
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I can't believe that one can experience all that between thoughts. In my experience, an experience involves mental work, which can be viewed as a mental work, or thought.
Erm... it's not a battle of hemispheres, but a battle between the cervical cortex and the hypothalamus. The first has the advantage of sensing reality and deriving reasonable inferences; the latter has the advantage of stronger impulses than the first, being the first in the development of the mind (by millions of years), thus having authority that way.Greta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:28 am Many here (and JBT) give the impression that the unity consciousness of the right hemisphere is qualitatively superior to the rational analytical thought of the left hemisphere. I personally value each, that rational analytical ideation is beautiful in its own way, just different to the unbounded visceral present moment.
Sorry to hear you had trouble understanding The Life; should you have accepted the Evolutionary theory, understanding the above would have been easy. The scientific model provides a much wider and more profound understanding than any form of mysticism.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:28 am I had a hard time growing up relating to adult people because I could never understand why they behaved so aggressively to each other. It often seemed like their lives were just chaotic most of the time full of stress and worry, and all I could think about was hey it doesn't have to be like that. So my own life has been a little chaotic too having witnessed the chaos in people who have been close to me personally, so I've indirectly got involved with the chaos myself.
I'm just paraphrasing the neuroscientist, JB-T. She was the one who said we have these hemispheric based modes based on the fact that she experienced the left side of her brain being knocked out by a stroke.-1- wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:28 amErm... it's not a battle of hemispheres, but a battle between the cervical cortex and the hypothalamus.Greta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:28 am Many here (and JBT) give the impression that the unity consciousness of the right hemisphere is qualitatively superior to the rational analytical thought of the left hemisphere. I personally value each, that rational analytical ideation is beautiful in its own way, just different to the unbounded visceral present moment.
...It's just a battle with your shadow.Greta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:12 amI'm just paraphrasing the neuroscientist, JB-T. She was the one who said we have these hemispheric based modes based on the fact that she experienced the left side of her brain being knocked out by a stroke.-1- wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:28 amErm... it's not a battle of hemispheres, but a battle between the cervical cortex and the hypothalamus.Greta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:28 am Many here (and JBT) give the impression that the unity consciousness of the right hemisphere is qualitatively superior to the rational analytical thought of the left hemisphere. I personally value each, that rational analytical ideation is beautiful in its own way, just different to the unbounded visceral present moment.
What if the perceived gap in time is not a loss of awareness but part of it?-1- wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:21 amI can't believe that one can experience all that between thoughts. In my experience, an experience involves mental work, which can be viewed as a mental work, or thought.
In fact, the quote itself says, "what I think about... between thoughts..." The writer himself or herself denies the truth of the alleged experience.
With all due respect, I am completely satisfied that her experience has been accounted by her with honesty and frankness; I doubt if she has the knowledge, however, to pinpoint the steps in her experience to physical spots or to physically located functionalities of her brain. I, however, can't prove this skepticism; it is purely speculative by me.Greta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:12 amI'm just paraphrasing the neuroscientist, JB-T. She was the one who said we have these hemispheric based modes based on the fact that she experienced the left side of her brain being knocked out by a stroke.-1- wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:28 amErm... it's not a battle of hemispheres, but a battle between the cervical cortex and the hypothalamus.Greta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:28 am Many here (and JBT) give the impression that the unity consciousness of the right hemisphere is qualitatively superior to the rational analytical thought of the left hemisphere. I personally value each, that rational analytical ideation is beautiful in its own way, just different to the unbounded visceral present moment.
How can you so confidently sprout I haven't watched the video?Greta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:20 pm DAM and -1-, how can you sprout so confidently without even knowing what she actually said? Watch the video first and then comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU&t=11s
Jill Bolte-Taylor is actually a keen atheist. Her experienced did not change her views there. Rather, she is positing that life itself contains this joyful boundless aspect to it that we are generally too busy being sensible and practical to notice. You don't need religiosity to experience such things at all.-1- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:50 amHow can you so confidently sprout I haven't watched the video?Greta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:20 pm DAM and -1-, how can you sprout so confidently without even knowing what she actually said? Watch the video first and then comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU&t=11s
I watched her description over a decade ago or so. It caused quite a stir in the circles I moved in then. Surely my memory fades, but the gist of it I retained. I remember my opinion more that I formed then than her speech, true. I remember I also disagree with her claims of spiritually heightened stages... bullshit, if you ask me. I can't prove her wrong, but she smacked of religious agitational propaganda. I was not impressed.
As I remember she did not quite come out saying she saw god or similar, but the suggestion was there and it was very strong. I hate shit like that. She was very obviously catering to a religious audience, and she did that to draw in crowds, in order to make money. The more in the crowd, the more money, and she sold out not only her show, but also her scientific dignity, if you ask me. It was all planned, contrived, and basically a lie. After she went into a religious tangent, her entire speech became suspect for me -- I lost respect in her, she lost her credulity for me.
I watched the video ages ago, but what she says would be irrelevant in comparison to your own direct personal experience of Absolute Infinity... relatively speaking of course...So even her interpretation of what she was trying to say was only a scratching of the surface of what is reality as we know it so far, it runs much deeper than we can possibly imagine. Remember when Jesus said, metaphorically speaking, he said In My Father's house there are many mansions.Greta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:20 pm DAM and -1-, how can you sprout so confidently without even knowing what she actually said? Watch the video first and then comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU&t=11s