The Inter Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: The Inter Mind

Post by Dontaskme » Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:42 pm

SteveKlinko wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:30 pm
Maybe the Oneness you talk about is true and so there is no Gap for you. But I am talking about what Science knows and doesn't know right now. Science more and more is figuring out how the Brain works. Science claims to have solved what Consciousness is by saying that it is just an Illusion of Neural Activity. Literally, that is what they say. The Gap that I am talking about is a Gap of Scientific understanding.
I get what you mean. But science will have to do what the mystics do and come to the same conclusion that the conscious experience is a mystery even to itself.

That's the only understanding that's going to show up.. in my logic.

Solving the mystery would be like electricity knowing it is electricity.

Concepts cannot communicate to other Concepts. All we got it concepts and images. Both empty of substance.

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Oneness is unsolvable...because of the where does the consciousness go upon death problem...the body is still visible, but the consciousness has disappeared.

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Maybe the consciousness hasn't gone anywhere, maybe it's just invisible like space...maybe it needs a generator and that generator is the brain network which is responsible for the charge that makes the inanimate animate.

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Consciousness never losing it's capacity to be charged since it's constantly feeding each new life form into animation , it's inseparable from the material and the material is constantly plugged into it's source of consciousness...we know this because reality is unbroken ..we do not witness any gaps in the way the world presents itself to us. It's one whole picture in our view finder, there's no fragments anywhere ..in that there is no place where one thing begins and another thing ends.

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Re: The Inter Mind

Post by SteveKlinko » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:53 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:42 pm
SteveKlinko wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:30 pm
Maybe the Oneness you talk about is true and so there is no Gap for you. But I am talking about what Science knows and doesn't know right now. Science more and more is figuring out how the Brain works. Science claims to have solved what Consciousness is by saying that it is just an Illusion of Neural Activity. Literally, that is what they say. The Gap that I am talking about is a Gap of Scientific understanding.
I get what you mean. But science will have to do what the mystics do and come to the same conclusion that the conscious experience is a mystery even to itself.

That's the only understanding that's going to show up.. in my logic.

Solving the mystery would be like electricity knowing it is electricity.

Concepts cannot communicate to other Concepts. All we got it concepts and images. Both empty of substance.

.

Oneness is unsolvable...because of the where does the consciousness go upon death problem...the body is still visible, but the consciousness has disappeared.

.

Maybe the consciousness hasn't gone anywhere, maybe it's just invisible like space...maybe it needs a generator and that generator is the brain network which is responsible for the charge that makes the inanimate animate.

.

Consciousness never losing it's capacity to be charged since it's constantly feeding each new life form into animation , it's inseparable from the material and the material is constantly plugged into it's source of consciousness...we know this because reality is unbroken ..we do not witness any gaps in the way the world presents itself to us. It's one whole picture in our view finder, there's no fragments anywhere ..in that there is no place where one thing begins and another thing ends.

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All Mysteries must be solved, and I think that all Mysteries will be solved some day. We should never stop trying.

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Re: The Inter Mind

Post by Dontaskme » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:21 pm

SteveKlinko wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:53 pm
All Mysteries must be solved, and I think that all Mysteries will be solved some day. We should never stop trying.
One way to solve the mystery would be to replicate the conscious self...I can't think of any other way...we can replicate our self by making conscious robots. Then we'd have two species of self, one organic conscious self, and the other a mechanical conscious self made of the elements already provided by nature. We could then interact with each other and maybe make mechanical organic babies in the process and end up with a completely alien mishmash of a whole new species...(just kidding! :wink: :D )

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Re: The Inter Mind

Post by SteveKlinko » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:49 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:21 pm
SteveKlinko wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:53 pm
All Mysteries must be solved, and I think that all Mysteries will be solved some day. We should never stop trying.
One way to solve the mystery would be to replicate the conscious self...I can't think of any other way...we can replicate our self by making conscious robots. Then we'd have two species of self, one organic conscious self, and the other a mechanical conscious self made of the elements already provided by nature. We could then interact with each other and maybe make mechanical organic babies in the process and end up with a completely alien mishmash of a whole new species...(just kidding! :wink: :D )

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I think what you are kidding around with here is actually a possibility. I can completely envision Conscious Machines someday.

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