Technicolor Dreams

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: Technicolor Dreams

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:06 pm

As an addendum to what I've posted here, I've just read IBM is expecting the colorblind to be able to see colors in about five years through some sort of technology.

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Re: Technicolor Dreams

Post by wtf » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:44 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:As an addendum to what I've posted here, I've just read IBM is expecting the colorblind to be able to see colors in about five years through some sort of technology.
Some sort of technology ... that sounds pretty complicated. Can you dumb it down for us?

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Re: Technicolor Dreams

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:09 pm

wtf wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:As an addendum to what I've posted here, I've just read IBM is expecting the colorblind to be able to see colors in about five years through some sort of technology.
Some sort of technology ... that sounds pretty complicated. Can you dumb it down for us?
It's under number 2 (EnChroma sunglasses):

http://www.sciencealert.com/these-are-i ... ng-in-2022

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Re: Technicolor Dreams

Post by Beauty » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:00 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Beauty wrote:But the blind people have never seen earth and the whole ecological system, so how can they dream what the non-blind dream?
When you say blind people, do you mean colorblind people?

If you mean blind exactly with no vision during their entire life, then they can't dream because they have no memories to draw upon. But blind people can dream if they had vision in an earlier part of their lives leading to memories.

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Yeah! You may be right.

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Re: Technicolor Dreams

Post by Beauty » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:06 am

I am not against any corrections or improvements, but I do know that life goes as per consequence to action, so the colour blindness would be for a justified consequence for past action. Perhaps the action might have been a disrespect for colour in the regard experienced in consequence. Just due for past action, we all go through. I think people need to understand that and be more accepting of life as it comes our way of course acting in commonsense all the time.

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Re: Technicolor Dreams

Post by wtf » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:15 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote: It's under number 2 (EnChroma sunglasses):

http://www.sciencealert.com/these-are-i ... ng-in-2022
That's actually very interesting. They have special glasses that filter light to deliver the right wavelengths to the eye to allow a color blind person to see colors.

This is a real life implementation of a philosophical thought experiment called Mary's Room. The point is that the formerly color blind person now knows something about the world that they did not know before. Therefore qualia are real. They convey information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument

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Re: Technicolor Dreams

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:40 am

wtf wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote: It's under number 2 (EnChroma sunglasses):

http://www.sciencealert.com/these-are-i ... ng-in-2022
That's actually very interesting. They have special glasses that filter light to deliver the right wavelengths to the eye to allow a color blind person to see colors.

This is a real life implementation of a philosophical thought experiment called Mary's Room. The point is that the formerly color blind person now knows something about the world that they did not know before. Therefore qualia are real. They convey information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument
What's even more interesting is what would the colorblind
person's impression be to now seeing color? Would he regard it as an extra sense? And what would he think of his previous visual world? How would this affect his dreaming? Etc.

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