The pro-determinists do absolutely not "own" terms like science and causation, even though in their simplified world it looks appealing (to feelings?).
That is, both subconsciousness and consciousness can very well carry free will "as I choose between a myriad of causing factors as I crown one as the winning cause by my free will to effect something" (perhaps by one hand on the food, I decide). Also, by this, I can show that I am unlike any inanimate thing, like a car. Determinists fail to do this. In their world, there's no difference between these "dead" things and the living. Us, the pro-free will people have no problem here, also in rating living organisms in being less complex and in being more complex. When do the determinists predict anything at all? When are they successsful? Isn't this their kind of religion where anything goes as long as it looks deterministic?
