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Re: Emergence of self

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:20 pm
by Ginkgo
nonenone wrote:
1 comes from the fact that robot's sensor must have some data for building physical related aspects of the self, for example its relative position in the external world.
This can be done with, or without the need for a "self". In other words, it is not a prerequisite.

Re: Emergence of self

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:27 am
by nonenone
Ginkgo wrote: This can be done with, or without the need for a "self". In other words, it is not a prerequisite.
yes but i guess self can not be built (properly) without having data of relative position of the robot in external world. i meant that.

Re: Emergence of self

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:13 pm
by Ginkgo
nonenone wrote:
Ginkgo wrote: This can be done with, or without the need for a "self". In other words, it is not a prerequisite.
yes but i guess self can not be built (properly) without having data of relative position of the robot in external world. i meant that.

No doubt. But embodied cognition is an argument as to why machines can never be conscious.

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embodied_cognition