did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by jackles » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:13 pm

yes did we exist 20 billions years ago as a super consciousness.before any locality existed we existed.before a thought was we were.still and unmoving.regs jackles

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Re: did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by Blaggard » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:15 pm

Er if we did it was before the Big Bang and hence not something we can know. Are you suggesting that human beings are in fact the Gods who started time? Or, genuinely not sure what you mean?

Roughly 14 billion years agos as far as we can determine the universe came into being, how and why is of course a moot point. ;)

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Re: did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by jackles » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:13 pm

yes thats right blags does everything that has ever existed or will exist share some remote super consciousness from the future.and we are part of the evolution of that future so we are in the past of are own future.hope that makes sence. ha

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Re: did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by Blaggard » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:04 pm

jackles wrote:yes thats right blags does everything that has ever existed or will exist share some remote super consciousness from the future.and we are part of the evolution of that future so we are in the past of are own future.hope that makes sence. ha
Not really it makes little sense, but then Jackles you seem to be good at making little sense. Remote super consciousness from the future? It sounds to me like you have been reading too many comic books, no offence. ???

I am genuinely confused...

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Re: did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by HexHammer » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:03 pm

This has nothing to do with philosophy of mind.

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Re: did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by jackles » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:49 pm

hex i reakon this one freaked ya.

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Re: did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by hammock » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:45 pm

jackles wrote:yes did we exist 20 billions years ago as a super consciousness.before any locality existed we existed.before a thought was we were.still and unmoving.regs jackles

We've always been residents of spacetime, at least perpetually existing in this "location" if not the earliest territory 13-plus billion years ago. So there's little point to such arbitrary speculations, anyway.

"Nothing in known physics corresponds to the passage of time. Indeed, physicists insist that time doesn’t flow at all; it merely is. Some philosophers argue that the very notion of the passage of time is nonsensical and that talk of the river or flux of time is founded on a misconception. ... Our senses tell us that time flows: namely, that the past is fixed, the future undetermined, and reality lived in the present. Yet various physical and philosophical arguments suggest otherwise. The passage of time is probably an illusion. Consciousness may involve thermodynamic or quantum processes that lend the impression of living moment by moment."
Paul Davies, That Mysterious Flow; SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, 2002

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Re: did we exist 20 billion years ago.

Post by jackles » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:32 pm

i couldnt agree more with what you have written hammok.its like we are at one in the same time the projector and projected .itsas if some sizeless thing is prejecting everything seen in the sizelike event by the brain.

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